I don't think you would be over charging it. In theory it wasn't a bad idea. I shoot buck and ball all the time for fun with decent results.
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So that would be roughly a 2 ounce load with a 325 grain roundball and a 2 1/3 dram eq. with 65 grains.
That doesn’t sound excessive, assuming my math is right. (Still on the first cup of coffee)
So that would be roughly a 2 ounce load with a 325 grain roundball and a 2 1/3 dram eq. with 65 grains.
That doesn’t sound excessive, assuming my math is right. (Still on the first cup of coffee)
Of course it is… the land of no deer and blue haired liberals.
I’ll stick to cardboard deer cut-outs and test it anyways.
@Fisherking, I don't know many gentle kicking mules, but I do know the difference between a grouse load and a stout load of buck and ball in a 7 pound fowling gun.
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It might be illegal to do that. If a game warden catches you it could be very bad for you.
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Yeah , it works but as mentioned its not terribly accurate and it kicks bad but at close range , blind or stand range , it'll get the job done . They are versatile guns , great for makin meat 
Make a video. Everyone likes videos. Don't know squat about hunting grouse (we have none). Just opened elk season - Missouri hunters harvested ..what...four? Doubtful whitetails would stand around long enough for a guy to dig out, drop a big roundball down the barrel and shoot. Here, your bird dog (assuming grouse are hunted with dogs) would get you a summons - illegal to hunt deer with dogs along.
Unless the roundball is patched and rammed solidly against the shot charge, two things come to mind - ball might roll completely out or part way, causing the shot charge catch up with the ball partway inside the barrel causing a bulge or burst barrel.
Here, you could legally use a double barrel to hunt birds and deer IF one barrel's loaded with shot (not larger than #4) and the other with a single projectile - only if you have a deer tag, regular hunting license, and leave your dog at home. Make the video.
Unless the roundball is patched and rammed solidly against the shot charge, two things come to mind - ball might roll completely out or part way, causing the shot charge catch up with the ball partway inside the barrel causing a bulge or burst barrel.
Here, you could legally use a double barrel to hunt birds and deer IF one barrel's loaded with shot (not larger than #4) and the other with a single projectile - only if you have a deer tag, regular hunting license, and leave your dog at home. Make the video.
Just for curiousity's sake, has anyone ever had a warden ask them to pull their load from a front stuffer?
How do you guys ever see any game when every other tree has a game warden hidden behind it? Do they ever get accidentally shot?
WVA Blue haired liberals? Guess you have never been to Pageton or Bluefields or Grundy or anywhere thereabout.
Never even heard of those places. But Seattle, Tacoma, Olympia and Portland are full of them.
The energy on the first two entries is reversed. The heavier gun always has less recoil.
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LOL ...funny you mention that as ive always wondered myself . I've hunting with loads such as mentioned at the beginning hoping to get meat whether it be deer or rabbit or whatever and always had my plan . If I was ever asked to pull the load , I seriously doubt it would come to that , but it was going to accidentally go off straight up in the air when I was taking it off half cock
Concur. Funny thing, that inertia.
Preliminary testing completed.
First thing this morning I ran out ans dug a limit of razor clams and, when I got home, the clouds cleared and it was almost sunny for a second. I grabbed my smoothbore and decided to cobble together some cardboard and put this *B&$-Ch to a test!
For whatever reason, today, after shooting, I felt like I couldn’t miss… for a change.
The first target is ‘supposed’ to be a grouse at 20 yards, which is a typical shot in western Washington trail walking/brush. I started with 3/4 oz of #6 with 40 grains 3f and powder cards. I just wanted to see how a smaller charge of shot patterned and if it would be enough pellet energy to be practical. My theoretical substrate was a paint can lid. Most of the pellets penetrated it, at least 50%.
The second target is three shots at 30 yards (or so). The first shot had 3/4 oz #6, powder card and a .60 round ball and another powder card. The recoil was minimal with the 40 grain concoction which was my original concern… I started with the lowest powder charge and figured I’d work it up.
The second shot was 50 grains 3f and same recipe.
Third shot was 65 grains of 3f.
I am not sure if I held high on the third shot or if the additional velocity caused the elevation change. Either way, the recoil was still minimal which is the primary concern, with patterning and accuracy secondary.
Next time I’ll stay with 65 grains and maybe try #4 buck with a ball over it.
I LOVE My smoothbore.
First thing this morning I ran out ans dug a limit of razor clams and, when I got home, the clouds cleared and it was almost sunny for a second. I grabbed my smoothbore and decided to cobble together some cardboard and put this *B&$-Ch to a test!
For whatever reason, today, after shooting, I felt like I couldn’t miss… for a change.
The first target is ‘supposed’ to be a grouse at 20 yards, which is a typical shot in western Washington trail walking/brush. I started with 3/4 oz of #6 with 40 grains 3f and powder cards. I just wanted to see how a smaller charge of shot patterned and if it would be enough pellet energy to be practical. My theoretical substrate was a paint can lid. Most of the pellets penetrated it, at least 50%.
The second target is three shots at 30 yards (or so). The first shot had 3/4 oz #6, powder card and a .60 round ball and another powder card. The recoil was minimal with the 40 grain concoction which was my original concern… I started with the lowest powder charge and figured I’d work it up.
The second shot was 50 grains 3f and same recipe.
Third shot was 65 grains of 3f.
I am not sure if I held high on the third shot or if the additional velocity caused the elevation change. Either way, the recoil was still minimal which is the primary concern, with patterning and accuracy secondary.
Next time I’ll stay with 65 grains and maybe try #4 buck with a ball over it.
I LOVE My smoothbore.
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Wonderful! Most excellent. As I have stated over and over, most people's concerns with recoil are way over blown.
There, you put it to rest until somebody comes in behind me and comments
There, you put it to rest until somebody comes in behind me and comments
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Wonderful! Most excellent. As I have stated over and over, most people's concerns with recoil is way over blown.
There, you put it to rest until somebody comes in behind me and comments
I was surprised that 5-10 additional yards would destroy the pattern. Three shots of #6 and the board is almost blank!
It doesn't take much....Just think of it as a "spreader" load! That heavier ball on top squats down as it has more inertia to overcome and piles the shot up around the edge of the bore, likely.
