I think I know the model of this cap & ball replica, but not the manufacturer.

[GLOCKer]

I've been wanting a cap and ball revolver for a long time, and have been kicking myself for not buying one a long time ago when they were much less money. In the past couple of years, I've gotten into amateur gunsmith-ing as a hobby, and I troll auctions for un-loved guns to fix up and shoot.

I finally scored a replica cap and ball revolver to clean up and have fun with, and learn about the roots of my firearms hobby! I believe it's a replica of a 1851 Confederate "Navy" (because of the naval scene on the cylinder and the brass frame). It's in .36 caliber.

It seems to be missing the retaining screw for the wedge, and I will find one, but I can't tell who the manufacturer is to make sure I get the correct size screw. According to the listing I won the gun from, the manufacturer isn't marked. I'm really hoping you folks might be able to help me out here so I can source a new screw!
Thank you!!!!

 

[GLOCKer]

I stretched my Google Foo a little and I think I've figured out:

• It's a RAG/RIGARMI
• It's probably older - 1960s through 1970s
• They are way out of production

So I may have errored by not finding a BP gun I can source parts for! I will order a Pietta and a Uberti screw and hopefully one of those fit.

 

[hawkeye2]

Have you checked the bottom of the barrel, the area covered by the loading lever when it's stowed? A photo of the junction of the barrel and frame from the bottom where the serial number is located might help.

 

[GLOCKer]

Have you checked the bottom of the barrel, the area covered by the loading lever when it's stowed? A photo of the junction of the barrel and frame from the bottom where the serial number is located might help.

I'm thinking its a RAG (Rigarmi). I saw what I think is a "RAG" on the side of the barrel. I'm hoping I can figure out some parts compatibility!

 

[2 shots]

take the barrel to a good hardware store and try some metric screws.

 

[Secesh]

Italian rendition of the 1851 Navy with a brass frame.

Looks like a Rigarmi revolver manufactured by Guerrino Galesi in Brescia Italy. RIGARMI is the contraction of RINO GALESI ARMI (RAG) and the maker stamp is usually on the left side of the gun to the left of the wedge with Rigarmi in letters on the barrel.

Date code (XX8) indicates manufacture or import date of 1972

 

[GLOCKer]

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Italian rendition of the 1851 Navy with a brass frame.

Looks like a Rigarmi revolver manufactured by Guerrino Galesi in Brescia Italy. RIGARMI is the contraction of RINO GALESI ARMI (RAG) and the maker stamp is usually on the left side of the gun to the left of the wedge with Rigarmi in letters on the barrel.

Date code (XX8) indicates manufacture or import date of 1972

It was meant to be! (Hehehe, my wife was born in 72!)

 

[Secesh]

I've been wanting a cap and ball revolver for a long time, and have been kicking myself for not buying one a long time ago when they were much less money. In the past couple of years, I've gotten into amateur gunsmith-ing as a hobby, and I troll auctions for un-loved guns to fix up and shoot.

I finally scored a replica cap and ball revolver to clean up and have fun with, and learn about the roots of my firearms hobby! I believe it's a replica of a 1851 Confederate "Navy" (because of the naval scene on the cylinder and the brass frame). It's in .36 caliber.

It seems to be missing the retaining screw for the wedge, and I will find one, but I can't tell who the manufacturer is to make sure I get the correct size screw. According to the listing I won the gun from, the manufacturer isn't marked. I'm really hoping you folks might be able to help me out here so I can source a new screw!
Thank you!!!!

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Looks like it may have some timing issues but a pretty nice find nonetheless.

Congratulations.

Not suggesting you should do this but filing down the octagon corners on that barrel and replacing the cylinder with a non engraved one the revolver would mimic a Griswold & Gunnison.

 

[Secesh]

Technically, you don’t really need the wedge retainer screw as it’s just there to help with not losing/misplacing the wedge but you’re probably like me, I would want to replace it myself.

 

[GLOCKer]

Technically, you don’t really need the wedge retainer screw as it’s just there to help with not losing/misplacing the wedge but you’re probably like me, I would want to replace it myself.

Yep! I once bought a used truck for towing my boat up and down the boat ramp and scoured ebay until I found each little piece of interior trim it was missing, just because it was driving me nuts a couple of pieces of small trim were missing!

 

[GLOCKer]

Does anybody know what size nipple wrench these take? #11 size? Are the nipples interchangeable between the brands?

 

[Tanglefoot]

Call DGW, give them the make and model and ask them about the missing piece. They have a lot of original parts and are very helpful.

 

[Hawk54]

Looks like it may have some timing issues but a pretty nice find nonetheless.

Congratulations.

Not suggesting you should do this but filing down the octagon corners on that barrel and replacing the cylinder with a non engraved one the revolver would mimic a Griswold & Gunnison.

Replacing the engraved cylinder with a non engraved cylinder would mimic a Schneider and Glassic. The Griswold and Gunnison has a round barrel.

 

[Secesh]

Replacing the engraved cylinder with a non engraved cylinder would mimic a Schneider and Glassic. The Griswold and Gunnison has a round barrel.

Yes, the S&G has an octagon barrel. The G&G has a round barrel. That’s why I said “… filing down the octagon corners on that barrel and replacing the cylinder with a non engraved one the revolver would mimic a Griswold & Gunnison.”

Here’s a nice copy of a G&G

 

[Flint1]

I believe it's a replica of a 1851 Confederate "Navy" (because of the naval scene on the cylinder and the brass frame). It's in .36 caliber.

Just for general information, the Colt 1860 Army Model also has a naval scene on the cylinder. In the old days .36 was referred to as a navy model and the .44 was called an army model.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Folks this was moved to Handguns because the Firearm Identification area is for "Need help identifying an original, pre-1865 muzzleloading firearm? "
The bold black portion is how it appears under the name of the thread area on the menu.

LD

 

[Jappo]

I'm guessing but the wedge is in backwards ?