I'm in a bit of a quandary

[hawkeye2]

And the grip frame?

They are interchangeable but the early 1860s had the 1851 grip frame and a 7.5" barrel.

 

[PastorB]

My 1851 .36 Navy is my favorite revolver, and I have a lot of cap and ball revolvers. If I'm just target shooting, it gets the nod 90% of the time. For deer or varmint shooting (legal where I live) I use a .44. I have a "fake" 1851 in .44, and it is a great shooter, I just prefer the lower recoil and authentic caliber of the .36.

 

[Gee Dog]

1862. Less a 'redesign' than a continuation of the 1860, 1861 into a pocket framed .36 five shot.
Colt made the '51 Navy clear into '75.

 

[necchi]

Research It. Colt took the 1851 Navy, cut the water table of the frame,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Yeah, but it never hit the market,, that's research.(ain't it"?)

 

[45D]

Yeah, but it never hit the market,, that's research.(ain't it"?)

Never hit the market?
The Army is in fact a Navy frame with a reduced forward section to allow the rebated cylinder. The Army barrel was designed for the new revolver with the creeping loading lever and a larger grip frame attached to the frame. The frame is the frame no matter how you look at it. All the action parts are the same . . . and, the '73 Peacemaker unmentionable ended up with the Navy grip. Some even left the Colt factory with the '60 Army grip frame . . . They're all related . . .

Mike

 

[necchi]

The Army is in fact a Navy frame with a reduced forward section to allow the rebated cylinder

Yeah, but then,, it's an 1860, not a `51.

They're all related

Yes, they are. Interesting concept huh? The advancement of industrial manufacture and marketing of supply/demand.

Point remains,, the actual 1851 is/was .36,, right?

Don't get me wrong, I have a .44 Navy ,, I love the fantasy gun.

 

[45D]

Fact is, the Army is the result of a modified Navy frame. It's not a new frame.
" point remains "

Mike

 

[Colonial Boy]

On the subject of wrong marking on boxes; many years ago, when things in Australia were more normal, a mate was at a gun show in Melbourne and bought an 1858 Remington .44, (no licence required for repro cap and ball in Victoria in those days) when he got back to his hotel and opened the box he got a very pleasant surprise, there lay an 1875 Army in .44-40 calibre.
Needless to say he didn’t complain.

 

[Joemolf]

I just purchased an 1851 Colt "Navy." I had a brass framed one way back in the 1970's and had a lot of fun with it, and wanted to get another, but with a steel frame. I ordered the .36 caliber. What showed up on my doorstep was a .44. A large part of me is like "historically, that thing is an abomination!" Another part is like "Oh cool, bigger boom!" My biggest fear, is that after going through all the pain and anguish of sending it back, and having them send another, is that I'll end up with the same thing, since the box is labeled .36. What are the odds that Pietta only mis-labeled one box, and not the entire shipment? I seriously doubt a warehouse worker is going to open the dang box, and check the weapon inside to make sure, before shipping it out. Any advice?

I suspect a one off I know that generally Dixie checks what is in the box . I hear you though the 1851 has something about it that the 61 or 60 doesn’t. You’ll be out there soon

 

[patriot]

Referring to your original post, you ordered a specific pistol for a specific reason. You didn’t get what you ordered/wanted. Then send it back and demand they check for accuracy before they send a replacement. Demand a call tag so you don’t eat the return shipping, since it was their fault.

If you changed your mind and want the larger caliber, and you are happy, then keep it. What advice do you want? Seems pretty simple to me.

Not trying to be argumentative, nasty, provocative, or demeaning, but the choice is yours. What I would do or someone else would do has nothing to do with what you should do.

Respectfully,
Patriot

 

[Whughett]

Referring to your original post, you ordered a specific pistol for a specific reason. You didn’t get what you ordered/wanted. Then send it back and demand they check for accuracy before they send a replacement. Demand a call tag so you don’t eat the return shipping, since it was their fault.

If you changed your mind and want the larger caliber, and you are happy, then keep it. What advice do you want? Seems pretty simple to me.

Not trying to be argumentative, nasty, provocative, or demeaning, but the choice is yours. What I would do or someone else would do has nothing to do with what you should do.

Respectfully,
Patriot

He ask for advise and got a bunch of opinions including a history lesson, sort of, on the 1851 in production.
Cennat you will keep is posted won’t you. I’d still like to know if the box was marked with the serial number and did they match.

 

[Hawk54]

Keep it and buy a .36. Then you can have twice as much fun.

 

[MSW]

i agree with Hawk54 ... this isn't architecture - less is not more ...

 

[Ceannt]

I checked the serial numbers.
There are 2 labels on the box, one that clearly states it is a .36. Another, smaller one, just has a bar code and the same serial number as the weapon.

 

[Zulch]

I just purchased an 1851 Colt "Navy." I had a brass framed one way back in the 1970's and had a lot of fun with it, and wanted to get another, but with a steel frame. I ordered the .36 caliber. What showed up on my doorstep was a .44. A large part of me is like "historically, that thing is an abomination!" Another part is like "Oh cool, bigger boom!" My biggest fear, is that after going through all the pain and anguish of sending it back, and having them send another, is that I'll end up with the same thing, since the box is labeled .36. What are the odds that Pietta only mis-labeled one box, and not the entire shipment? I seriously doubt a warehouse worker is going to open the dang box, and check the weapon inside to make sure, before shipping it out. Any advice?

Ceannt, I Hope you get it all straightened out to your liking. By the way, is the gun a Pietta brand? Thanks, Z

 

[Bad Karma]

Oh it was definitely a mix up. Advertised as .36, and labeled as such on the box. The outfit I bought it from doesn’t even sell 1851s in .44 with a steel frame, and 7 1/2" barrel.

Last summer I placed an order for 65 Nelson F100 Big Guns. The factory shipped 12 SR100’s and 53 F100’s. All in identical boxes labeled F100. It happens. I’d probably send it back as history is somewhat important to me and a 44 caliber 1851 isn’t that…

 

[Ceannt]

Yes, Z, it's a Pietta.
The more I look at it, the more I think I'm going to keep it. The timing is perfect, and it's very smooth. Besides, my son wants one now, and he's going to get one in .36, so we can trade back and forth at the range.

 

[Zulch]

Yes, Z, it's a Pietta.
The more I look at it, the more I think I'm going to keep it. The timing is perfect, and it's very smooth. Besides, my son wants one now, and he's going to get one in .36, so we can trade back and forth at the range.

That is a great idea Pietta makes a fine replica as well I’m happy for you.

 

[CyrusP]

Last summer I placed an order for 65 Nelson F100 Big Guns. The factory shipped 12 SR100’s and 53 F100’s. All in identical boxes labeled F100. It happens. I’d probably send it back as history is somewhat important to me and a 44 caliber 1851 isn’t that…

Those Nelson F100’s are full auto, and therefore unmentionable.

 

[Pete453]

Ceannt, that's the perfect solution. The 44 navies have a handing quality about them. I have an uberti london navy in 36, love it. When they become available, im going to buy a pietta london navy in 44. Then i can enjoy both. You and your son have fun, thats what these guns are all about! Hint: if you want a bigger bang out of your 36, fill the chambers full of black powder and load the ball on that. Makes them a completely different gun, very serious medicine!