I'm stuck and it's stuck in barrel

[Eric Krewson]

Here is a bigger picture of the proper brush to use, the one on the left will stay together, the one on the right will come apart and leaver you in a fix.

 

[david w]

Here is a bigger picture of the proper brush to use, the one on the left will stay together, the one on the right will come apart and leaver you in a fix.

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You're right, but I never use anything in the barrel but patch material, warm water and soap. That's all that should be needed.

 

[Ninering62]

Welcome to the club of broken brush, dry ball, and a few other things that can/will happen (we've all been there). Welcome to the site, there is a WEALTH of knowledge here. If I have one suggestion, since you are new to this, is to get yourself a Range Rod and a Brass Bore Guide for loading and cleaning. You can get them at Track of the Wolf. It will save your rifle rod, the bore guide will save your muzzle (keeping the rod centered in the barrel), and the range rod will make loading and cleaning easier. DANNY

I screwed up bigtime a cpl yrs ago with a sidelock I had & somehow let a .45 brass brush get mixed up with my .40 cal stuff & didn't catch it.....until I ran it down the bore all the ay & it got seriously stuck. Breaking it off right there. I tried 150psi air, a lil powder behind the nipple several times, then the copper tube. Nuthin worked. I ended up finding a custom made alum breech plug block & removed the barrel from the BP to get it out. I sure hope that that was my last screw up like that jeeeezzzzz lol. Yes, it was funny to joke about afterwards too. Life without humor & bein able to laugh at ourselves would be just unbearable.

 

[vintovka]

To add a note. Cheap cleaning jags made of Plastic or nylon often break off in the bore right where they thread into the rod. To add to the fun they usually break off flush with the end of the rod leaving you doubly "screwed".

 

[FishDFly]

yer kidding right? how many threads have we had about dry balls and 70 pages of ideas how to cluster that little problem? if it falls into the KISS category it is relegated to the last page.
between a few grains of powder and compressed air i have more then a few dents in the wall across from my shop vice.

And we have a winner.

 

[TreeMan]

I was told by my muzzleloading mentor 30 years ago to never use a brush in a muzzleloader barrel because of the direction of the bristles. He said they wouldn’t reverse direction and would get stuck. I never have and a damp patch on a jag has always worked fine. Now I see there are brushes designed so the bristles don’t do that. Second to dry balling I think stuck brushes are the second most common item to get lodged in a barrel according to old posts here.

 

[mooman76]

For those that don't know when using a brush, turn it clock wise our counter, it doesn't matter, when you get it down the bore that way the bristles change direction and you can pull it back out without breaking. Kind of common or not so common sense.

 

[FishDFly]

I was told by my muzzleloading mentor 30 years ago to never use a brush in a muzzleloader barrel because of the direction of the bristles. He said they wouldn’t reverse direction and would get stuck. I never have and a damp patch on a jag has always worked fine. Now I see there are brushes designed so the bristles don’t do that. Second to dry balling I think stuck brushes are the second most common item to get lodged in a barrel according to old posts here.

Right on accounts, don't use them and second most common.

 

[Pete G]

Do not put a brush down your bore. Stay with a brass jag with steel threads.

 

[Idaho Ron]

For those that don't know when using a brush, turn it clock wise our counter, it doesn't matter, when you get it down the bore that way the bristles change direction and you can pull it back out without breaking. Kind of common or not so common sense.

That's what I do. I turn it clock wise so it doesn't loosen from the rod.
I use a brush every time. I've never had a problem. I do use good brushes and a good rod to clean.

 

[FishDFly]

Person should have a certain knowledge level before using a brush in a barrel. To many posts of how to get it out.

Only time I use a brush is in revolver barrels and that it to clean the forcing cone.

 

[Danny Ross]

I have used a patch puller like this one in the past using a bore guide to keep the rod centered to pull a brush. It whines its way down through the bristles as you twist the rod, keeping the post of the brush in its center, then pull it out. Just an FYI. DANNY

https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Shot-Bla...641849398&sprefix=patch+puller,aps,204&sr=8-2

 

[mooman76]

That's what I do. I turn it clock wise so it doesn't loosen from the rod.
I use a brush every time. I've never had a problem. I do use good brushes and a good rod to clean.

Yes I guess I do too. I didn't think about the brush unscrewing from the rod so one would pretty much have to turn clockwise.

 

[flntlokr]

First off I admit I’m an ***** but only first time out shooting. I have a Pedersoli Gibbs and yesterday during swabbing out, a plastic (disposable) brush broke off and is at bottom of barrel. I’ve tried a few methods (worm, air pressure etc.) and now at a loss. Just looking for suggestions.

Thanks. Jerry in Northern Nevada a.k.a Fallon Kid

Find a local club, and join it; lots of knowledge and experience will be found there that will get you through most problems.

 

[david w]

Find a local club, and join it; lots of knowledge and experience will be found there that will get you through most problems.

I wish I lived close enough to a big city where I could join a club!

 

[BadDaditood]

I do appreciate all your comments. I am new as yesterday was my first loading a barrel. I don't have a club or hang with anyone who does BP. I enjoy shooting like yesteryear and have the desire. Just ain't no excuse for my lack of knowledge. I learning as I go. Thanks all

Hey Kid yer welcome at my club anytime, only 7 hours south!

 

[.36Rooster]

Get a copper tube just under the bore size and push it down the barrel. It should go over the brush then pull it out.

This topic comes up so frequently, but out of the half dozen methods that always get suggested, this idea is the smartest, most reliable, simplest, and most feasible...

The shooting idea is always suggested as well, but I frown on the idea of shooting anything but soft lead out of a bore that you are fond of, aside from other concerns...but that's just me. Others feel differently...but I say, why shoot it out to begin with when you can easily capture the brush out of the bore with a tube? You can do it on your couch while watching tv, why go through any more trouble...

Get yourself a brush with a continuous wire attachment and not a crimped one, and you should be good. Plastic bristles or not, you need a well designed brush that can handle the pull stroke and not break or seperate...this will keep anything like this from ever happening again.

 

[Dbasiliere]

It's a common method when someone dry balls. I'm surprised you never heard it before.

Hey guys, I was reading this post about the stuck brush and I remembered an incident from 50 years ago when I had my first black powder Kentucky long rifle. I had heard that after cleaning it a good idea was to put lighter fluid in the barrel and cap burn it out to dry the barrel of moisture after dry swab. Well I was a kid and put the fluid in, drained excess and capped it, and capped it, nothing. I should have walked away. But no, I figured I would shoot it out. So I full charge it and load some #6 bird shot. (believe it or not I used to shoot partridge with it even though there rifling made it squirreley.). Boom, it cleared a path through the brush, recocked the hammer and blew off my hat.
Last time I messed around with that drying method. I was just a dumb kid, good thing the Italians made a sturdy gun.

 

[Idaho Ron]

This topic comes up so frequently, but out of the half dozen methods that always get suggested, this idea is the smartest, most reliable, simplest, and most feasible...

It's been my observation that most guys will do stuff to their guns to fix a problem that is more damaging to their guns than it needs to be. Shooting anything besides a bullet is going to damage the barrel.
My video on using a grease gun to push out stuck bullets or jags shows that you can remove something without damaging the barrel. But guys are more scared of a cup full of grease than heating their barrel to red hot to melt the lead out. Or they glue drill bits to ram rods. Then they lose the bit into the bullet when the glue breaks.
Or they successfully drill a hole through the bullet or ball. Then the grease gun method won't work.
I wish guys would think about these things before they give advise that could damage the gun or the shooter.

 

[vintovka]

Seen valuable stuff literally destroyed with heat, cheap vises and monkey wrenches.