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[Izzak5th]

Trying to find out the year my Percussion dual cap shotgun was manufactured. Local gun club thought it was Late 1800s. It is double barrel with markings between the barrels that says " Real Twist " No other markings. It took a real husky person to lift and shoot it. I would include some photos but I can not figure out how to add photos to this Post ?
Thank You
Izzak

 

[TFoley]

Your side-by-side shotgun bearing the words 'Real Twist' is likely a common store-bought gun made in Belgium or England by the tens of thousand, and sold by such worthies as Sears, Roebuck Inc for as little at five bucks, and sometimes, depending on the maker, up to as much as twenty bucks.

Not trying to disappoint you, Sir, just preparing you for the likelihood, is all. The middle end of the 19thC and well into the 20thC was the heyday of this kind of gun, than probably put more food on the table of pioneer Americans that any food store of the day.

As for markings, I'm betting a pound to a pinch of parrot poop that it has plenty of 'em, you're just not looking in the right places. If you can take the barrel out of the wood, look underneath at the breech end - likely you'll see an ELG in an oval or similar, with lots of figures and stuff. Tell us what they say, and we can offer you a possible 'date within x years...'

We'd love to see your pics, if you can send them to somebody here who can put them up for you. After many years on this great forum, I still can't do it.

And Welcome, too! :thumbsup:

tac

 

[bpd303]

Posting photos is relatively easy, follow these directions. http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/287747/

 

[jdw276]

Is it "real twist"? Or "fine twist"?

Mine says fine twist. If different no idea what the difference is.

 

[satx78247]

Fwiw, Sears, Roebuck & Co. sold some double-barrel shotguns in the late 1800s, that were described as "Fine Quality" & imported from Europe, for as little as 75 cents.

When I was a child in the late 1950s, one of my grandfather's "play fellows", (as Mother derisively called them), Mr. Roy Shankle, owned his grand-uncle's 14-gauge double barrel from Belgium that cost 2.50 from Sears, sometime before WWI. = It shot just fine, though it had little real value, other than sentimental.

yours, satx

 

[satx78247]

Fwiw, despite it being a "cheap, hardware store sort" of shotgun, I wish that I owned "Mr. Roy's" DB, as I have great memories of my GF's "playfellows", who "took me to raise" & let me "tag along" on their camping/fishing/hunting adventures, after my GF suddenly passed away in 1960.
(Btw, "Mr. Roy" gave me my first taste of "white likker" when I was 12-13YO, saying that, "Son, you got to learn to handle your likker, sooner or later & I'd sooner that you learn with us men." - Mother was "not pleased" & "gave him a piece of her mind". = CHUCKLE.)

yours, satx

 

[bobroark]

Your side-by-side shotgun bearing the words 'Real Twist' is likely a common store-bought gun made in Belgium or England by the tens of thousand, and sold by such worthies as Sears, Roebuck Inc for as little at five bucks, and sometimes, depending on the maker, up to as much as twenty bucks.

Not trying to disappoint you, Sir, just preparing you for the likelihood, is all. The middle end of the 19thC and well into the 20thC was the heyday of this kind of gun, than probably put more food on the table of pioneer Americans that any food store of the day.

As for markings, I'm betting a pound to a pinch of parrot poop that it has plenty of 'em, you're just not looking in the right places. If you can take the barrel out of the wood, look underneath at the breech end - likely you'll see an ELG in an oval or similar, with lots of figures and stuff. Tell us what they say, and we can offer you a possible 'date within x years...'

We'd love to see your pics, if you can send them to somebody here who can put them up for you. After many years on this great forum, I still can't do it.

And Welcome, too!

tac

i've been doing some research on my dad's old percussion, double-barrel. i came across your post (above) from a few years ago. very helpful!
i removed the barrel and found the 'ELG' proofmark you'd mentioned, along with a lot of other stuff. would you be able to help me identify my dad's gun if i sent some pictures? thanks in advance. bob.

 

[TreeMan]

i've been doing some research on my dad's old percussion, double-barrel. i came across your post (above) from a few years ago. very helpful!
i removed the barrel and found the 'ELG' proofmark you'd mentioned, along with a lot of other stuff. would you be able to help me identify my dad's gun if i sent some pictures? thanks in advance. bob.

Start a new thread in this sub forum and post some of good pics of it. Most likely if it’s Belgian it’ll fall into the one of many thousands imported Belgian shotguns as described above.

 

[bobroark]

thanks for the quick reply.

i didn't know how to start a 'new thread' (novice), but i think i was able to send you a 'conversation' titled:

"dad's twisted barrel, percussion, side-by-side (late-1800s)"

hope to hear back. and thanks again.

 

[bobroark]

thanks for the quick reply.

i didn't know how to start a 'new thread' (novice), but i think i was able to send you a 'conversation' titled:

"dad's twisted barrel, percussion, side-by-side (late-1800s)"

hope to hear back. and thanks again.

Start a new thread in this sub forum and post some of good pics of it. Most likely if it’s Belgian it’ll fall into the one of many thousands imported Belgian shotguns as described above.

i think i was able to start a new thread and post photos in sub forum: Firearm Identification.

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/...el-percussion-side-by-side-late-1800s.164563/