AaronH
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Looking into getting my first flintlock. I’ve stumbled upon the company, Loyalist Arms. Has anyone has any dealings with them? Quality? Any help will be appreciated.
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Check out also Military Heritage; they also sell India-made stuff but it appears very good quality.
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Also, Veteran Arms.
First - what is your budget??? Second - What 'style' are you looking for? Fowler/smoothbore or rifle, Hawken-type or longrifle?
As I know of some MINT, like new, Pedersoli flintlocks for $600+ that would be far better in the long term, than any of those other import options noted. A Lyman Great Plsins Rifle, in flint, might even be had for less.
As I know of some MINT, like new, Pedersoli flintlocks for $600+ that would be far better in the long term, than any of those other import options noted. A Lyman Great Plsins Rifle, in flint, might even be had for less.
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'New' Peder flints for 600? What decade is the time machine dialed in at?
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Loyalist Arms by a mile Though I havnt had any dealings with any other firms . Rudyard
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I snagged a barely used Pedersoli Frontier off gunbroker earlier this year for $575. They are out there.'New' Peder flints for 600? What decade is the time machine dialed in at?
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This has been hashed out before. But if your looking for the least expensive new flintlock I would check out the Investarms available. I’m not bashing the India guns
, but there are other choices for new rifles under $600. Now if the type you want is only made in India then go for it, but understand there may or may not be issues. As said, if you shop around enough there are still some good deals on good used guns.
, but there are other choices for new rifles under $600. Now if the type you want is only made in India then go for it, but understand there may or may not be issues. As said, if you shop around enough there are still some good deals on good used guns.AaronH
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Budget is under $800 seeing as I just spent a lot when I got my kodiak express just 2 months ago. Im not wanting something rifled preferably a Fowler or smoothbore musket. I am almost confused in the difference. Is it just that one is a caliber and the other is classified as a gauge?
@AaronH, the questions you are asking are not really so easy to answer.
I have a Loyalist Arms Long Land Pattern Musket. It was chosen because there are really very few manufacturers of that style of musket other than the ones made in India or there is a two year wait time.
Both muskets and fowling guns are classified by gauge. It is modern descriptions that apply caliber dimensions to these firearms.
A musket is described as a military arm and is quite heavy. It is designed to shoot round ball and due to its weight, it is not all that practical for hunting fowl.
The fowling gun is designed for wing shooting fowl. Therefore, it is light, easy to handle and smaller in gauge, but the gauge can range up to the musket gauges.
I have a Loyalist Arms Long Land Pattern Musket. It was chosen because there are really very few manufacturers of that style of musket other than the ones made in India or there is a two year wait time.
Both muskets and fowling guns are classified by gauge. It is modern descriptions that apply caliber dimensions to these firearms.
A musket is described as a military arm and is quite heavy. It is designed to shoot round ball and due to its weight, it is not all that practical for hunting fowl.
The fowling gun is designed for wing shooting fowl. Therefore, it is light, easy to handle and smaller in gauge, but the gauge can range up to the musket gauges.
I own four. Two carbines, one LLP Bess, and a Trade Gun. I painted the stock on the trade gun with oil based paint....
They do kill squirrels
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I love the paint job. I might have to give one a go with some of the semi gloss olive drab oil base paint that I have left. Then again, I would have to fight myself to keep from Parkerizing all steel parts.
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You should be able to find what you want with that budget. As to the difference in Fowlers & Muskets it’s in their intended use. A military style musket or a fine English style Fowler. Different stocks and hardware, but the caliber can be converted to gauge and vise versa.
Reading is fundamental ... what was said was "MINT, looks new" ...'New' Peder flints for 600? What decade is the time machine dialed in at?
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Thank you! Is the trade gun capable of being loaded with a patched round ball for short range hunting capabilities?
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AaronH
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The trade gun you have I think is the same one I’m looking at!
I ordered a Percussion Musket with bayonet from Loyalist on 14 September.
Talked with the owner at that time and he stated that my musket was #55 in his work queue taking 3-4 months with an expected delivery next year.
It was acceptable to me as I stated to him that "I wanted it done right and not right now."
This is just a heads up on their backlog.
Talked with the owner at that time and he stated that my musket was #55 in his work queue taking 3-4 months with an expected delivery next year.
It was acceptable to me as I stated to him that "I wanted it done right and not right now."
This is just a heads up on their backlog.
So what I did was to print out a photograph of the red used by a custom trade gun maker, and then I took that to the paint store, and asked them to copy it in a oil based paint. I thought about Carolina Blue, for a Carolina gun, but... it's not close enough to a Carolina gun, so I went with the red.
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that is a great looking RED CHIEFS' GRADE trade gun. I have one in 54 cal.
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