Hi all. So after reading another topic here and seeing the results of using JB Bore Paste on their rifle, I had decided to look it up. Well, as per usual, it is not available around here in Canada, or at least around me. So, I was just wondering if there is anything else you would recommend to use in its place, and how does one properly use it? I had read toothpaste works? Does one just load up the bronze brush and run it up and down for a couple of hundred strokes, check then reapply if necessary? Thanks all. Now I'm going to read up the JB user guide online...
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JB is essentially 1200 grit lapping compound....DO NOT USE TOOTHPASTE!
Check your local automotive parts store or order it from America.
That said.....I would never use either unless I had a good reason.
Check your local automotive parts store or order it from America.
That said.....I would never use either unless I had a good reason.
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How long have you been shooting the gun?
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Here is a good article explain the abrasivity of tooth paste....
http://www.sheltondentistry.com/patient-information/toothpaste-abrasivity/
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Why do you need it may we ask?
Having a dark unpolished bore 99.9% of the time effects nothing but your own warm and fuzzy feeling.
I've used JB paste on some milsurps and I will say shooting is much better.
Having a dark unpolished bore 99.9% of the time effects nothing but your own warm and fuzzy feeling.
I've used JB paste on some milsurps and I will say shooting is much better.
Zero, zip, zilch, nada! Sorry for the stupid reply, but I have not ever shot the gun. I had acquired this rifle from a neighbour at the lake this past fall on the weekend we were closing up the cottage. He used to shoot it yearly to take a deer or two, but how long ago, that is my best guess, as he did not remember himself. He had not shot it since buying something more modern... But at the same time, this gun was, from my observation, put away very poorly. I could only best guess that MAYBE he had run A patch through it quickly after the last shot, but am not holding my breath. It was then stored outside in his out building, rained on, in the sun, thrown in the corner. He had also taken the hammer off and put it away inside, but again, could not find it and not remember when or where he put it away. Anyways, I hope this answers your question. Thank you.Black Hand said:
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Of course you may ask, and I'd be glad to answer. To summarize what was just posted in my reply above, the gun has some good rust/pitting along the length of the barrel, and mainly along the corners of the lands and grooves. I was thinking it would help clean it up, but I am reading to shoot it and see how it goes. Anyways, I was just hoping to clean it up a bit more than it currently is. Thank you.
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Don't try to fix a problem it may not have - Shoot it first then decide. But by all means, clean it well...
Had the same problem with a gun my dad has. My brother shot it years ago and never cleaned it and it sat in the gun safe since. Needless to say the bore was terrible. We got a gutter that the barrel would fit in and filled it with cheap cola and let it sit for a couple days. Then hit it with a bronze brush then cleaned as usual. Shined it right up. Still pited some but seems to shoot well. I would get to crazy till you get it cleaned up and shot. You may find it will be okay. Worse case you lost a couple days and a couple bucks in soda.
I have an SS marked K98 that has one sewer pipe of a bore. Needless to say without even touching the bore it's an excellent shooter.
I'd personally just clean it like normal and leave it at that. Absolutely no reason to fumble with the frustration and time of trying to fix something that you inevitably won't fix.
However, shooting it will indeed smooth things out, also it's allot more fun than pushing a jag/ brush a zillion times! :thumbsup:
Don't sweat it, trying to reverse the issue can and in most cases cause more harm than good.
I'd personally just clean it like normal and leave it at that. Absolutely no reason to fumble with the frustration and time of trying to fix something that you inevitably won't fix.
However, shooting it will indeed smooth things out, also it's allot more fun than pushing a jag/ brush a zillion times! :thumbsup:
Don't sweat it, trying to reverse the issue can and in most cases cause more harm than good.
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I have found that you can clean a nasty bore quite well with a patch of 3M Scotch Brite scouring pad on an undersized jag. You will need a lubricant of some kind on your Scotch Brite pad. I found that soapy water works quite well. Just run the Scotch Brite pad down the bore and start scrubbing using full length strokes. Don't use short strokes in one place because you want to make the bore the same its full length.
You can also use some steel wool wrapped around an undersized bore brush. Just make sure that the brush is undersized so it doesn't get stuck. Use the same full length stroke technique as with the Scotch Brite. Make sure that you are using a lubricant such as soapy water or even some oil.
In either case, you can often feel the bore crud being scrubbed loose. It usually takes anywhere from several strokes to a bunch of strokes, depending on how badly the rust and crud is built up in the bore, to get the offending stuff out. Use a bore light to check from time to time.
If you use soapy water as your lubricant, be sure to thoroughly rinse and dry the bore when you are done. I have found that several dry patches followed by spraying some WD40 down the bore gets out the final traces of water. Then just wipe out all of the WD40 and apply a good gun oil.
You can remove rust from the outside of the barrel using 4-0 steel wool with oil. I have found that motor oil is the best. Do not scrub, just gently rub until the rust has been removed. 4-0 steel wool with an oil lubricant will not harm the bluing unless you try going King Kong on it and scrubbing too hard. Rub gently and the rust will come off. Once you have it off, you can use some cold blue, if your barrel is blued, to touch up the spots where the rust was. If you have a browned barrel, the rust won't make any difference so just buff it with the 4-0 steel wool and motor oil to even out the rust spots.
If the stock needs attention, that is another process. If that is the case, just post your questions about how to repair your stock finish. We'll be glad to help you on that, too, if you need it. :thumbsup:
You can also use some steel wool wrapped around an undersized bore brush. Just make sure that the brush is undersized so it doesn't get stuck. Use the same full length stroke technique as with the Scotch Brite. Make sure that you are using a lubricant such as soapy water or even some oil.
In either case, you can often feel the bore crud being scrubbed loose. It usually takes anywhere from several strokes to a bunch of strokes, depending on how badly the rust and crud is built up in the bore, to get the offending stuff out. Use a bore light to check from time to time.
If you use soapy water as your lubricant, be sure to thoroughly rinse and dry the bore when you are done. I have found that several dry patches followed by spraying some WD40 down the bore gets out the final traces of water. Then just wipe out all of the WD40 and apply a good gun oil.
You can remove rust from the outside of the barrel using 4-0 steel wool with oil. I have found that motor oil is the best. Do not scrub, just gently rub until the rust has been removed. 4-0 steel wool with an oil lubricant will not harm the bluing unless you try going King Kong on it and scrubbing too hard. Rub gently and the rust will come off. Once you have it off, you can use some cold blue, if your barrel is blued, to touch up the spots where the rust was. If you have a browned barrel, the rust won't make any difference so just buff it with the 4-0 steel wool and motor oil to even out the rust spots.
If the stock needs attention, that is another process. If that is the case, just post your questions about how to repair your stock finish. We'll be glad to help you on that, too, if you need it. :thumbsup:
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https://iosso.com/products/bore-cleaner/
http://www.montanaxtreme.com/products/?id=8&product=CopperCream
Both of these products will clean a bore of fouling or light rust without damaging the bore.
Both of these products will clean a bore of fouling or light rust without damaging the bore.
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