Juried Rendezvous

[andy52]

No modern cigarettes or cigars

Cigars and hand rolled cigarettes are actually historically correct. I have smoked both at the trade faire at Fort de Chartres without issue and I've never had anyone check my underwear.....

 

[Grenadier1758]

There are no substitute powders at the April Trade Fair competitions. But then the competitions are flint lock only so substitute powders would be at a significant disadvantage.

My Traditional Gun Club has a monthly match. No problem shooting in Jeans, bibs or whatever outfit keeps one confortable.

 

[andy52]

@Grenadier1758 are you going to Old Mines this weekend?

 

[Johnny Too-Tall]

I didn't mean to create controversy here. I have no issues following group/event rules to participate. The coordinator has emailed me back and I will be sending in pics to be vetted to compete. He was very welcoming and polite. I don't plan to camp but I never do when attending an event for the first time (Bad experience once) so I can feel the group out and determine if they are the type of people I want to spend a weekend with. Most are no issues but one was a nightmare.

 

[waksupi]

Cigars and hand rolled cigarettes are actually historically correct. I have smoked both at the trade faire at Fort de Chartres without issue and I've never had anyone check my underwear.....

Cigarettes should be rolled in corn husks! We've smoked hand rolled cigars with tobacco Spotted Horse had sent me. Rolled on the hairy thigh of a buckskinner!


The only judged event I ever went to didn't like that I told them all their wooden chairs didn't exist at the time, or the Whelen tents.

 

[tenngun]

I can understand if a person wants to play pretend but ....................have never understood what being in period has to do with shooting ? Shooting from the bag ok, have to use a traditional ramrod that fits in the thimbles ok, cut at the muzzle patches ok but does that mean no modern lube will that eliminates most of the homemade lubes ( if it wasn't available pre 1840 ) ? And what difference does it make if I'm wearing jeans and a polo and your in a breech clout other then if your built like me it's really ugly when I strip that far (70 year fat man ). I have no problem with equipment restrictions
( although I don't have a problem shooting against a in line that has to use a patched round ball I've never lost a match to 1 yet ) and if your going to have a true primitive event and going to count threads and all that other B***S*** then maybe no fake powder should be allowed ? So I repeat what does pretending have to do with shooting ?

It’s just an aspect of the sport, and not for everybody. The point is to have fun.
A stew is a stew. Starting a fire with flint and using an historic pot won’t make it taste different then a camp stove and a modern pot.
Sometimes historic clothing can be uncomfortable, but most of the time Jeans and a tee shirt isn’t more comfortable than eighteenth or nineteenth century clothing.
And no matter how hard we try our impression of the past will fail at some point.
It’s fun for me to put on my kit and go have some tea in the woods.
It’s just play acting, I’m no more a real eighteenth century man than Fess Parker.
I don’t think we’ve improved things in general
Pants are pants, shirts are shirts. And wrapped in wool or a microfiber sleeping bag my sleep is as good.
Eighteenth century recipes are tasty, and different from my normal fare, so it’s special but so is fruit cake and pumpkin pie, that I only eat at the holidays.
A juried event gives a chance to play with like minded folks
About a hundred miles from me a town holds a big bucket convention. Those cars are neat but don’t interest me.
Fifty miles away some boys play with RC planes. They have fun, again no interest to me
Go shooting and enjoy, come to an historic event and enjoy. Same thing, just a game.

 

[andy52]

Cigarettes should be rolled in corn husks!

The only judged event I ever went to didn't like that I told them all their wooden chairs didn't exist at the time, or the Whelen tents.

As early as the late 17th century poor people in Europe were picking up discarded cigars cropping them up and rolling them in newspaper however, due to lack of knowledge the ink with lead in it was killing them.

 

[sturmkatze]

I can understand if a person wants to play pretend but ....................have never understood what being in period has to do with shooting ? Shooting from the bag ok, have to use a traditional ramrod that fits in the thimbles ok, cut at the muzzle patches ok but does that mean no modern lube will that eliminates most of the homemade lubes ( if it wasn't available pre 1840 ) ? And what difference does it make if I'm wearing jeans and a polo and your in a breech clout other then if your built like me it's really ugly when I strip that far (70 year fat man ). I have no problem with equipment restrictions
( although I don't have a problem shooting against a in line that has to use a patched round ball I've never lost a match to 1 yet ) and if your going to have a true primitive event and going to count threads and all that other B***S*** then maybe no fake powder should be allowed ? So I repeat what does pretending have to do with shooting ?

Just don’t go then. They want a certain thing. If you’re unwilling or unable to comply, don’t go —it’s THEIR event. How hard is it? This us not a happy-happy, joy-joy world that all are free to participate in.

 

[tenngun]

Cigarettes should be rolled in corn husks! We've smoked hand rolled cigars with tobacco Spotted Horse had sent me. Rolled on the hairy thigh of a buckskinner!


The only judged event I ever went to didn't like that I told them all their wooden chairs didn't exist at the time, or the Whelen tents.

Some things are not only time specific but place specific. Corn husk cigarettes were smoked in eighteenth century but mostly in Spanish America
Some chairs gives me a cringe, but for the most part unless one is an army officer chairs should be a no no. But we are all modren people and many of us a might long in the tooth. So period style chairs, too many candle lanterns, and such are just something we over look.
Popular now is the double braziers. But some places you can’t have an open fire so these ‘look right’.
A wheelan and for that matter a baker is sometimes not acceptable for some camps. They never bothered me…. It’s a canvas tent.
And that brings up our tents. Most camps require some sort of fire proof modern fabric. We still live in these times
Most camps have hooters, as a trench off to the side just won’t fly today.
All we can do is do our best, and that will be a different standard for everyone.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

Who wants to live in this century? Yuck.

Life’s short, enjoy your muzzleloaders however you like. Good luck at your juried event, take pics if you’re allowed!

 

[Zapadach]

A Juried Rendezvous Sounds ominous. Is this where the so-called stitch police come in?

Is the jury made up of 12 angry men ?

 

[longcruise]

Who wants to live in this century? Yuck.

Life’s short, enjoy your muzzleloaders however you like. Good luck at your juried event, take pics if you’re allowed!

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Well said by one who goes out and does it regularly without a jury.

 

[Kentuckyjed]

I'm guessing like some of the others who have responded that it is just the events that are juried. My interpretation of that is if you are going to participate in any of the shooting or hawk throwing etc. then dress in period clothing and don't act like a yayhoo. I have been to many rendezvous where to camp you have to be in period clothing and camp but then I see guys walking in with jeans and t-shirts to go participate in the shoot. I would rather see whoever is going to participate in the shoot dress in period clothing in my opinion.
I am also thinking about going and its roughly 4 hours east of me.

 

[billraby]

Its extra historically correct if you catch syphilis there.

 

[Kentuckyjed]

Its extra historically correct if you catch syphilis there.

Beware the women of the night or bring your own full time night woman.

 

[azmntman]

Not my thing but I understand their game their rules. Not a Problem. I just challenge the winner to a match in the woods where we gotta use a Walmart bag hung from the mirror of a Corolla and shoot out the left window and wear shorts and knee high socks. THEN WE'LL SEE WHO IS THE BETTER SHOT?

 

[Johnny Too-Tall]

Not my thing but I understand their game their rules. Not a Problem. I just challenge the winner to a match in the woods where we gotta use a Walmart bag hung from the mirror of a Corolla and shoot out the left window and wear shorts and knee high socks. THEN WE'LL SEE WHO IS THE BETTER SHOT?

I've had to straddle a 55 gallon barrel to represent a horse and was towed on a trailer across a field and had to shoot and reload on the move while bouncing around. Never realized how tough it is to load and shoot like that. Loading was the toughest part. I imagine trying to reload a 42" barreled rifle in a Corolla would be tough too, or even maneuvering it out the window and back in.

 

[The Crisco Kid]

Most camps have hooters, as a trench off to the side just won’t fly today.

I guess my ignorance of what hooters are showed in my previous post. Or more likely it's just the way my mind works. What exactly are hooters anyway?

 

[Kentuckyjed]

The City of Pikeville

Pikeville 200 Team Presents

Fur & Ginseng Trading Post Days

Long Hunter Rendezvous on Bear Mountain

Pikeville, Kentucky September 12-14, 2024


MANDATORY GUIDELINES FOR PARTICIPANTS


All participants must remain in period attire at all times (1760-1840).

1. Check-in and registration are scheduled from 8 a.m. until dark on Wednesday, September 11. All participants must check in at the Registration Station to get a camp and parking permit. Vehicles are not permitted in the campsite drop off area after 7.00 a.m. on Thursday. All campsites and vendor stations must be ready for public viewing no later than 9:00 a.m. on Thursday, September 12.
2. All items used or sold must be authentic to the years 1760-1840. This includes clothing, furnishings, guns, knives, shoes, hats, baggage, eating utensils, trunks, and such. No Western or Plains Indian articles should be used or sold. The following items may not be sold: Chinese bamboo flutes, hatchets, popguns, archaeological artifacts, items representing pre-1760 and post-1840, holiday items, mass-produced items (such as t-shirts and caps), skins of domestic animals, souvenir-type items such as photographs, pictures, or stationery. CDs may be sold but must remain hidden at all times.
3. Period-appropriate eyewear, facsimiles, and contact lenses are allowed. Modern eyewear is not acceptable.
4. Women’s clothing, accessories (including jewelry), and appearance are restricted to the Rendezvous time period (1760-1840): simple gowns, petticoats, shifts, short gowns, or bed jackets. The following are not allowed: makeup, off-the-shoulder shifts, bodices worn as outer garments.
5. Footwear allowed includes time period-appropriate shoes and moccasins. Modern footwear, modern moccasins, slippers, Mary Janes, or Chinese slippers are not acceptable.
6. Shelters accepted include simple lean-tos, diamond fly’s, marquees, and wedges or wall tents. Not allowed: Civil War tents, teepees, Bakers, Walens, center poles, and nylon tents.
7. Coolers are allowed in tents but must be concealed. Coolers and other non-period items may be kept in your vehicle if you prefer.
8. Tables must be correct to time period or skirted to the ground. No modern staples can be used to secure the covering.
9. No food or drink is to be served unless you have period-appropriate utensils, plates, mugs, and such.
10. Alcoholic beverages are not permitted anywhere on the grounds, by order of the City of Pikeville.
11. Brown cigar-like cigarettes or cigars and period-appropriate smoking pipes are allowed while you are in period clothing.
12. Pets are not allowed anywhere on the grounds. Anyone who wants to bring horses to this event must contact Rendezvous staff two weeks prior to the event, or no later than Wednesday, August 28. There are particular equine regulations that must be followed.
13. Minor children are the sole responsibility of their parents. Children will not be allowed to run around unattended or play around fires, tools, or animals. Young children need to be supervised by parents at all times.
14. The use of cameras and cell phone cameras should be as inconspicuous as possible while you are attired in period clothing.
15. To ensure the safety of visitors, participants, and staff, all firearms shall remain unloaded in camp. Only staff and selected volunteers can demonstrate a firearm. A staff member must be notified before the demonstration of any firearm. Violations will cause you to be removed from the camp.

JURIED PARTICIPANT CATEGORIES

• PARTICIPANTS/PROGRAM PERSONNEL – Individuals or groups in this category are primarily those representing some aspect of life during the 18th- 19th Century time period of 1760-1840, including campers, civilians, militia, military, and such.
• TRADITIONAL CRAFTSPEOPLE – All crafters must demonstrate a craft of the time period and produce replicas using tools and equipment that are also time-period appropriate. Traditional crafters may sell their hand-made goods. Crafters must be on site during the event hours of operation.
• MERCHANT – Merchants may sell time period trade goods from a shelter. Shelters must meet period specifications. All goods sold must be approved by the Rendezvous staff. A “License to Trade” must be acquired at the Registration Station before sales begin.
• BLANKET TRADER – Blanket Traders may sell period-appropriate trade goods from a blanket or skin laid on the ground. Display space size is that of a four-point blanket (72” x 90” = 45 square feet). All goods sold must be approved by Rendezvous staff. A “License to Trade” must be acquired at the Registration Station before sales begin.

• Youth Long Bow – Note Youth Long Bow Competitors will consist of grades 4-12 in school year 2024- 2025. If you graduated in 2024, you would compete as an adult.

Competition Standards


Competition Rules and Governance – Note all Long Hunter Rendezvous Competitors will be governed by the same standard Rules and Regulation of the NMLRA



Direct any questions or inquiries to:

Kevin Hall - [email protected]

Randall Osborne – [email protected]

Charlie Chalk - [email protected]

 

[Coot]

I guess my ignorance of what hooters are showed in my previous post. Or more likely it's just the way my mind works. What exactly are hooters anyway?

Hooters = Porta-johns, or in the case of event, actual outhouses.