What’s a spelling NAZI and why did you all cap it? Don’t poke the toad.Big surprise!
I think it rather commendable that you can insult both Harkin fans and spelling NAZIS with a single thought.
What’s a spelling NAZI and why did you all cap it? Don’t poke the toad.Big surprise!
I think it rather commendable that you can insult both Harkin fans and spelling NAZIS with a single thought.
They cost about two times a normal rifle price back in the 19th C., I think I read. They were definitely a premium item. The current interest in them is due to the romance surrounding them, and they are just simply Handsome! As well as powerful for hunting and target shooting.The link I sent you says $1600. + so it’s a lot. Not going to be like a Kibler. Much rougher. Not even made in St. Louis anymore.
I don’t hate Hawken rifles, I just think most are not Hawken. They are half stocks and called that. Most can’t even call it the right name, the call it a Hawkins or something.
I didn’t insult you. You claim you’d have that and be a hunter. Maybe. I don’t know what you do in life now. Not everyone back then could even get a good trade our job. What training did you have to buy one? Hawken rifles were more of a well to do guy’s gun. Anyway. We are just talking. I find people’s belief of how the past was to be interesting. It was rough and not fun.
Would it? How much were your lodgings? And food and other items. You couldn’t then, as now, apply your whole salary to the gun. You’d have to live.It would be easy to buy a Hawken if earning a $1.00 a day.
Everyone has the thing that they get all dewey about. Harkins it, Lancaster (pronounced “Lanka-stir” by them folks what live there) guns were nice. I think Bedford rifles are swoopy, I just detest the ones ghettoed up with a bunch of ugly inlays.I think John Baird chattering on endlessly about them in the 1970s is the main driver for today's worship of the 'arkins rifle
I would have found a way. Remember the gun would have earned me a living. I might have made more than a dollar a day.Would it? How much were your lodgings? And food and other items. You couldn’t then, as now, apply your whole salary to the gun. You’d have to live.
I wish one of the good researcher guys would talk about costs of living and such.
I would have been dead with appendicitis at age 17. So there's that..... Would have been no hawkinses for me.I would have found a way. Remember the gun would have earned me a living. I might have made more than a dollar a day.
I would have been hunting all the time. Cost of living would be low for me. It would be close to zero when I was out with the brigade.
I think it was the movie.I think John Baird chattering on endlessly about them in the 1970s is the main driver for today's worship of the 'arkins rifle
Read the provided link, it has many jobs with high and low ranges..Good sir, if ask wages for what job? Laborer? Farmer? Blacksmith? Typesetter? Rag picker? That’s a big variable too
I’m not trying to jack you up. Maybe. You could hint with a trade gun. Many did. Again, I don’t know what you do for a living now. Not everyone could do that. You could buy one of Greg’s kits now, right? It’s all good.I would have found a way. Remember the gun would have earned me a living. I might have made more than a dollar a day.
I would have been hunting all the time. Cost of living would be low for me. It would be close to zero when I was out with the brigade.
I saw the link. I was making a point and I don’t have time to spend today on research. Of people don’t have a high function job now, what makes you think they worked then? Life was different and hard. Cooking was hard. I am assuming that you watch Jon Townsend’s videos… I for one really would not wanted to have lived then.Read the provided link, it has many jobs with high and low ranges..
I don't do anything but hunt. I've been retired for almost 20 years.I’m not trying to jack you up. Maybe. You could hint with a trade gun. Many did. Again, I don’t know what you do for a living now. Not everyone could do that. You could buy one of Greg’s kits now, right? It’s all good.
I'll have to admit, I've been following this thread from the beginning, but in researching the etymology of "Harkin," I found it goes way back to 2020, in an unrelated thread, when a forum member who will remain nameless wrote something about his "...Pedersolie Harkin in .54 cal." A certain frequent participant in this thread, who will also remain anonymous, picked it up and ran with it.What’s a Harkin fan?
You are absolutely right, but the error was first made a long time ago. I like to read the frontier travel literature that was written in the 19th century, and you see "Hawkins" all the time in reference to these rifles. In fact, I don't recall ever reading "Hawken" in the period literature. The fascination with and loyalty to these rifles is nothing new, either. This is from Captain Randolph B. Marcy's The Prairie Traveler (p. 22), first published in 1863:I know there’s a lot of excitement out there for this kit, but seriously folks…it’s HAWKEN, not Hawkins, not Hawkin, not Hawkens.
Well… maybe.A childish insult.
How often we forget how lucky we are and how vulnerable our ancestors were from what we consider less threatening stuff now. Made me think: me, also, from pneumonia, my dad from early heart attack, my b.i.l. from strangulated hernia, my cousin from sepsis from cutting off his toe, neighbor kid from tick bite, list goes on... not to mention smallpox, yellow fever, typhoid, etc. Puts things in perspective.I would have been dead with appendicitis at age 17. So there's that...
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