I believe Lorie had told me May or June
Kibler price increase
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TraderVic
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In a thread over on ALR, Jim said he's about 80% done with the preparation to begin production of the Woodsrunner rifle.
He also said that if one wants to get on a list for the rifle, they'll take your name on the condition you don't "bug him" about it before he's done and actually making the rifle.
They took down my name for the rifle after the Woodsrunner so they'll definitely put you on the list for that one.
Thanks guys for the info. I’ll call this morning to get added to the list.
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That is reasonable.
What is unreasonable is Panther Primitive increasing 15% from their published current catalog prices. I think they are wanting to go out of business. They should have adjusted prices before publishing their current catalog...
15% !
Rock Home Isle
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By the end of this year, we'll see double digit increases on the percent price in all sectors, not just BlackPowder specific items. This is going to be tough before it gets better...if it gets better.
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Wildrangeringreen
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The price increases are for realsies, I looked casually at what new materials would cost me back about a month and a half ago (it was going to be around 700), looked again yesterday, and that same haul will cost me 850 (lumber prices went back up and metal is going up quick)!!! 
Don't even start me on barrel makers, those poor guys are up to their ears in orders and backlogged anywhere from 5 weeks for the big boys out to 18 months for smaller concerns lol! Fuel + Labor (cost of living/finding quality people)+ material demand = more cost.
Buy what you can now (regardless of who it's from), and find a range of loads that work, from small plinker loads up to monster loads... and then shoot the light ones to save that powder and shot for when you need it. I have a feeling our belts may have to be tightened a few notches in the year(s) to come.
Don't even start me on barrel makers, those poor guys are up to their ears in orders and backlogged anywhere from 5 weeks for the big boys out to 18 months for smaller concerns lol! Fuel + Labor (cost of living/finding quality people)+ material demand = more cost.Buy what you can now (regardless of who it's from), and find a range of loads that work, from small plinker loads up to monster loads... and then shoot the light ones to save that powder and shot for when you need it. I have a feeling our belts may have to be tightened a few notches in the year(s) to come.
DuncNZ
54 Cal.
From what I read on this forum if Jim Kibler started making genuine Hawken kits he would either have to stop making everything he now makes or hire on more hands and expand the business to keep up with demand .
TraderVic
40 Cal
Jim does plan to offer a Hawken (percussian) down the road, likely after a smoothbore fowler.
He is expanding at this time, looking to hire an experienced gunsmith, etc.
He is expanding at this time, looking to hire an experienced gunsmith, etc.
I need to hurry up and finish my shop and forge before it cost me a couple of new flintlocks I’ve been eyeing. Prices are not ever going to go back down.
Correct again. May as well buy one if you want it now.
Prices of everything seldom goes down.
skyhigh315
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You know what's REALLY not hurting Kibler? The fact that every time I see one, I never think, "Gee. That dude should have taken his time.... or gotten some help.... or not used a chainsaw." Self-proclaimed 'first-time builders' post comments about how they just received their kit and love it. Then, only a few months later, they post pics of some gorgeous rifle and I'm thinking, "BS. There's no effing WAY that supposedly-novice builder built that pretty gun that fast."
My order will be in before April 1, even if I have to put it on one of my no-interest plastics.
My order will be in before April 1, even if I have to put it on one of my no-interest plastics.
Well my name is on the list for a 54 caliber Woodsrunner. I’ve got a SMR 32 caliber on order already. And I’ll buy a fowler when they become available.
longcruise
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I'm seriously torn 
I dearly want a 40 SMR. But really pushing the "fun" budget to place the order by 4-1. I guess I won't make any predictions. Won't know what I'm going to do til the last minute.
What time zone is that again?
I dearly want a 40 SMR. But really pushing the "fun" budget to place the order by 4-1. I guess I won't make any predictions. Won't know what I'm going to do til the last minute. What time zone is that again?
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My .40 SMR has been on order for a couple of weeks. If there was a fowler kit available, it would be on order as well.I'm seriously torn
What time zone is that again?
longcruise
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My .40 SMR has been on order for a couple of weeks. If there was a fowler kit available, it would be on order as well.
My problem is could order a parts set and pre-carve from Pecatonica and do a passable job of building it but it will never equal the Kibler kit. At least not under my hand!
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I need to take a long hard look at my "unmentionables" as to who must go to fund the next Kibler. I have all big bores and need a .40-.45 cal. Now that I have my Colonial ready to shoot, I would probably give hard thought to selling my GPR percussion...(no, this is not an ad, just a thought!). My t/c renegade will do most anything that does, with much better sights. Its tough when you have limited storage space .
It’s tougher when you have plenty of storage space but lack of funds to fill it.
Snuck in under the wire! Ordered a .58 rifled regular maple before bed last night.
I reckon the Pedersoli .50 flint Kentucky will go away to offset the cost. Just doesn't fit me very well.
I reckon the Pedersoli .50 flint Kentucky will go away to offset the cost. Just doesn't fit me very well.
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