Kibler Woodsrunner tall sights

[James Kopp]

Has anyone move there sites to the Kibler tall site? I would like to hear form those that have and what lead you to change out the original sites for then taller sites. What issues were you having at the range that lead to this change..I have a Woodrunner that is being difficult to site in at 50 yards... wondering if i need to change the sites out to a taller ...I just seems to always be shooting low.. Love ot hear from this group

 

[Codger Craig Wilcox]

If you are shooting low, raise the rear sight. Or lower the front sight.
For sight adjustment, remember FORS: Front Opposite, Rear Same - works well

 

[Gum Slough Muzzleloader]

My Woodsrunner shoots low too.
Windage is spot on. Funny thing is, I ordered the taller sight with my Woodsrunner but I was so consumed by how well it was coming together and how beautiful it was looking that installed the original rear sight, took
Ol Blondie out for her first shoots and the windage was perfect that I'm not going to remove it. I'll just file the front sight down and let it eat.
Fantastic Gun....

 

[EC121]

I replaced the back sight to avoid filing the front sight. I like the higher sights.

 

[Gum Slough Muzzleloader]

I replaced the back sight to avoid filing the front sight. I like the higher sights.

That's why I ordered taller one but I screwed up. You are right.

 

[French Colonial]

I bought a Woodsrunner and filed down the front sight to shoot point of aim at 50 yards, the front sight was so short that I had a hard time finding it quickly. (old eyes)
I ordered the taller front and rear sights and started over and all is well.

 

[oldwood]

I had a friend that taught a scratch build m/l class at a local high school at night. One of the builder student finished his rifle , Getz barrel , Siler lock , set triggers , and standard tall blade front sight. Each student sighted his rifle in w/help from the instructors. This one student came back three times due to filing his front sight lower and lower due to glare on the top of the sight causing the gun to shoot low. When the gun was finally shot in a covered shooting range , the gun shot very high showing the student he had to install a new high fron sight to restore proper zero. I shot competition and hunted with high thin blade front sights. High sights are good at keeping the sight pattern up out of heat wave distortion associated with any steel gun barrel. Coat iron sights with barrel steel cold blue , selenium dioxide , to give a flat no glare look to sights for accuracy. This chemical cold blue also blackens brass sights as well for "no glare" sighting , too.

 

[EC121]

If you are only shooting once low sights are OK(if you can get your head down), but for multiple shots, it doesn't take long for the heat waves to blur the sights.

 

[akroguy]

About the only complaint I have with the Kibler kits is the low back sight. I had to file down the front so much on my Colonial as to be almost useless....was seeing top of barrel in the sight picture. I put taller front and rear on all my builds so I have plenty of metal to work with for sighting.

 

[Iceman]

Not woods runner but SMR. When it was properly sighted in I had several problems with the front sight being too low.
I need reading glasses so it became difficult to aim with such a short sight in front and the barrel in the sight picture doesn’t help either especially if the sun was shining on it.
If I was in the woods on a woods walk and lighting was low I couldn’t hardly find the sight.
When shooting in competition the barrel would heat up and the heat waves block out the low sight.
The taller sights, although not perfect due minimize the mention issues.

 

[stubshaft]

My WoodsRunner was shooting 9" low at 50 yards and rather than file down the front to a nub I ordered the higher rear.

 

[#BPBReloadingFFL]

You guys with your kibler rifles sight problems reminds me of the gunsmoke episode Festus's Aunt Thede had a revolving rifle she had those great big sights on it

 

[Buff1958]

i put the biggest brass front sight I could find with a tall rear sight

 

[GriscomRun]

I replaced the original rear sight with the new taller one last year. It made a noticeable improvement raising impact about 7-8 inches.
I shaved the front down slightly and now have impact at POA using a 6:00 hold. My shooting was at 50 yds.

When I first shot the original sights my POI was near 9 inches low. No sense in trying to file the front with that much change in elevation needed.

This was with my old eyes - I'm 78. Your results may vary but it's worth the time and effort to make the change.

 

[Lead Nuggets]

Had to change both my .45,54 Wr to the taller sight.

 

[TDM]

I have 2 Woodsrunners and 3 SMRs. All have taller rear sights from TOW or one I made myself. All require fitment, but well worth the effort. For me, the Kibler rear sights were far too low and I don’t think the higher sight they offer is high enough. But proper sight picture is subjective, you have to experiment to find what works for you.

 

[Leatherbark]

My Woodsrunner front sight had to be filed down to where it looked like a shotgun bead. Plus, it was shooting so far to the left i had to move the rear sight the right and the front sight (now a bead) to the left. Messed with it for a year changing sights trying to make it look like a straight rifle. It was accurate though and was super-fast firing. It just looked like Mr. Magoo installed the sights. Should have sent it back.

The sight dovetails are an oddball size. Around .390 or so. Rear sights are easy to find. Unless they now offer a taller front sight then at the time front sights usually have to be made if you want a taller one or add material to the existing sight.

 

[Taevers]

My Woodsrunner front sight had to be filed down to where it looked like a shotgun bead. Plus, it was shooting so far to the left i had to move the rear sight the right and the front sight (now a bead) to the left. Messed with it for a year changing sights trying to make it look like a straight rifle. It was accurate though and was super-fast firing. It just looked like Mr. Magoo installed the sights. Should have sent it back.

The sight dovetails are an oddball size. Around .390 or so. Rear sights are easy to find. Unless they now offer a taller front sight then at the time front sights usually have to be made if you want a taller one or add material to the existing sight.

My SMR was the same way. Accurate barrel, just tweeted out of center a bit. It happens with metal removal often. Metal hogged out to make the swamped barrel can warp the centerline out of true. Information on bending barrels is pretty common to find.