L&R replacment locks for flint conversion

[HAMMERSCHILD]

Hey guys, Whats the consensus on L&R's replacement locks ? My son has a traditions woodsmen "hawken" rifle. We were considering converting it to flintlock. It has the drum type thimble for the nipple So I think I would just have to drill and thread a hole for a flash hole liner. Do the replacement locks from L&R fit the traditions rifles? I think they are interchangeable with the TC models ,right?

 

[Rifleman1776]

You will get conflicting opinons on L&R locks. I think they are high quality.
As for the fit, a call to L&R in the a.m. will be your best source for that info.

 

[mr.flintlock]

Back about 1985 I custom built myself a half-stock 32 caliber percussion squirrel rifle. I used a Dixie Tennessee Rifle lock with a drum and nipple. About four years ago I decided to convert it to flint ignition. I got myself a L&R Dixie replacement lock and replaced the drum and nipple with a vent liner of the correct size and transformed my little rifle to flint.I have sent many a squirrel to squirrel heaven with it since. I have been very pleased with the L&R lock.The lock was not a perfect drop-in but was close. I had to make only a few cuts and the lock dropped right in.

 

[SgtSchutzen]

I have very little experience with flintlocks and am not qualified to answer your question. However my brother used one to replace the original flintlock on an old CVA rifle he has. I don`t know how the L&R compares to other "better" locks, but I know it works alot better than the original CVA lock he has.

 

[ODG34]

I have one on my GPR. It has been great. Very good spark and great flint life. L&R makes a quality product. I own 2 L&R's both work well.

 

[ebiggs1]

L&R lists a Traditions replacement lock on their web site. You need to check if they are all the same.
I have replaced six locks with L&R locks both percussion and flint. They are not only good locks they are very good locks. I have not one bit of experience with Traditions anything but I can not imagine an L&R lock not being at least as good as any Traditions lock.

The ones I have done are not drop in and they are supposed to be for the specific gun. You need some inletting black, makes it so much more easy and a drill press with a Forstner bit. You can do a first rate job with that. Although it can be done other ways, too. Pocket knife!?!? :hmm: :wink:

 

[Walks with fire]

I have an L&R Late English flint lock on my RMC rifle. I love it; it seals really well (never leaks prime) and sparks/fires everytime. Did I say I love the lock !!!!

It's the same lock as the replacement locks.

 

[hounddog]

Hammerschild, Most traiditions and cva parts interchange, If your traditions is a hawken style the back of the lockplate should be rounded. Some of the tradition kentuckys use a lock that resembles a siler in that the back has a tail. Trackofthewolf carries L&R locks to re-place traditions and cva they run 145.00 look at pictures to determine the style needed. I recently coached a fellow on anotther forum thru a conversion of a shedendoa traditions perc to flint. He was able to get a correct flintlock directly from traditions. decide what you want to do and let us know will be glad to assist, I have 40 years experience in gunsmithing and currently own 8 rifles and pistol that I have converted. yours hounddog

 

[Leatherbark]

I always thought Traditions guns were actually CVA's renamed. Find someone who has a CVA Hawken and see if the lock will fit in your mortice.

I am not sure if sawing off the drum and drilling for a touch hole liner will work, but it might. I believe I'd sell it and by a flintlock.

Bob

 

[hounddog]

Leatherbark, Yep it works real good, and is the easiest way to do a conversion. Cva drums are a metric3/8x16 nobody makes a touchole liner that big. I have done a lot of work on cva thu the years they are by far the most popular traditional gun in my area. CVA has a super strong breech plug/nipple system. Many times in the past the drum would break off trying to pull it. It just easier to cut the drum off and tap for a standard 1/4x28 or 5/16x24 touchole liner, as I said earlier I have 8 of my own, I cant even count the others I have fixed. Its a bunch yours hounddog

 

[talkingamoeba]

I replaced a Traditions flint with an L&R flint. Some minor trimming of the mortice was required, as was some file work on the sear.

 

[HAMMERSCHILD]

So, L&R says they have no replacement lock for the Traditions "woodsman" model. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Crazy Horse]

I had an L&R lock installed on my Lyman GPR and now it sparks and shoots great!