loading from the horn

If we documented everything we said on here there would be very little discussion.

You have got to know that's not what I meant. My statement was aimed at the people who are obviously offering their opinion and backing it up by saying "the old timers did it".

Do you document every word and phrase you say on these forums? If so, I must have missed it.

Get real. There's no need to document my "opinion". If I offer something as "fact", you bet I'll cite the reference.