Long gun storage and protection...

[roundball]

Glad to hear you decided to 'nail it down'.

I'm not sure what size the thru bolts are but even if they are only 5/16 diameter, if they are made out of a good hardened steel, each one of them will require a force of over 9,000 pounds to break.
That effectively gives your safe a "weight" of over 37,000 pounds before someone can lift it.

The hold up was due to the struggle over 'where' its permanent location should be...once I worked through that it just became a project to execute.
I went with good sized 1/2" x 3" RedHead anchor bolts.
I doubted that the concrete pour for the garage floor was more than 3"-4" and I didn't want to drill deeper and risk punching through that would let moisture come up into the bolt holes.

 

[Rat Trapper]

Intent to "permanently" eliminate crimnal leads to murder charges in MI.

My intent is only to stop the person from making a threat on to me, however with my high level of marksmanship, this may very well lead to the situation being "permanently" eliminated. The fact that I tend to get very excited when threaten, may lead to the whole magazine being fired of which those rounds may all become centered on the threat! But your Honor, my intend was only to stop the crimnal from coming at me and making treats. :wink:

 

[ebiggs1]

You did well, Pilgrim! :thumbsup:

 

[aeatwood]

Or they can't open it, can't move it, so they just tip it over.

 

[roundball]

Or they can't open it, can't move it, so they just tip it over.

Pretty sure some sort of heavy powerful truck with long chains to wrap around the top for leverage to break its bond to the concrete floor would be needed even to tip it over...at any rate, I've done all the practical due diligence that makes sense to do

 

[roundball]

UPDATE:
In testing humidity inside the safe, I currently have 56 watts of heat/drying capability inside it.

Its been raining non-stop for hours here and the humidity outside has been 98% for all that time.
The humidity inside the warm house with the furnace kicking on periodically is 46%...normal conditions that my cased guns have been stored in all my life.

I'm sure the humidity inside the attached cool garage is higher than the warm house 46% and lower than the outside rain 98%.

But in spite of that the humidity inside the safe is actually drier than the house...45%.

 

[aeatwood]

I was think more on the argument for bolting it down vs. not bolting. I went for several years w/ my safe not bolted to the floor, but when I bought my 2nd one, I had the delivery guys bolt both of them down.

 

[roundball]

"...when I bought my 2nd one, I had the delivery guys bolt both of them down.

:grin:

 

[roundball]

HUMIDITY MONITORING UPDATE

Outside humidity is 83%
Inside the garage its 45%
Inside the safe its 43%

 

[ebiggs1]

You know mine are all bolted to the wall studs in the basement but just a few feet away is my garage. Where all manner of metal working tools are, including hand grinders with cut off wheels, heavy duty drill motors and carbide bits, and diamond bits, a power hack saw and possibly the best choice of all for a thief, an oxy-acetylene outfit with a cutting torch. :shocked2:

I sure hope any thief that breaks in is a dumb one! :grin:

 

[roundball]

Final Humidity Monitoring Update:
Latest Experiment
Last night I bump up the safe heat from 56 watts to 116 watts with the following results this morning:

Outside humidity=83%
Garage = 45%
House = 42%
Safe = 40%

CONCLUSIONS:
1) My guns have lived their lives rust free in cases year round, in an average house humidity environment of 50%-60%, plus & minus.
2) I've seen that I can easily control the humidity level inside the safe and keep it actually drier than the house.
3) Storing them in their cases will be fine.