Been at this since 71 or a year before(I can remember the girl that went out with me to shoot my first CVA kit rifle is why I know the year)and its been one long ride,great ride, the pawn shops are a great idea, the T/C is great, as is the Lyman GPR,as is Ivestarms, I think Id start out with the Invetarms made Lyman Trade rifle, cheaper than Cabelas at 250 new, and pawn shop maybe a 100 or bit more. I would start out on a non black powder,keep the cleaning and rust down(stay away from Pyrodex till you get more into it) next can go black powder I plink with Triple 7,target shoot , hunt (if I still did) with Goex and Swiss. Thats how Id start out again. (Pyr rust very easy,Trip7 cleans easy and you dont have to clean after a few shots, and nothing like real black powder( really to be fair some guns are going to shoot better with 1 kind over another/ how good do you want it shoot? how good are you? Same with the Trade rifle modern insides not much to go wrong with when your starting out. thats my 2 cents :yakyak: Good shooting however with whatever you use, all these post are good ones. Fred :thumbsup: