Looking to identify musket

[Macohead]

Looking to identify this musket - this is the only marking I could find on the rifle.... Thank you!

 

[Loyer]

Needs more photos if you expect any help.

 

[PathfinderNC]

It’s a Doglock for starters

 

[Flintandsteel]

Need more info.

 

[Conquerordie]

Need more pics too!

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

The lock is probably english. The mark really doesn't mean anything with out pictures of the whole gun.

 

[Macohead]

Thanks for the replies - I'm still having no luck identifying this gun ... these are the full shots:

 

[Sam squanch]

Can we see the buttplate?

 

[Rudyard]

Well the above observation's are as much as you can ask , we do need photos .But since your from Newfoundland the gun might be for sealing as similar guns where ' Got up ' and the dog catch isn't unknown for such guns the cold lent itself to using flint guns as handling caps in those harsh conditions meant no gloves but you could handle a flint gun without taking off your mitts . I once fired a percussion rifle in 46 below , I was so determined to shoot that day . I manage 8 shots at which point I couldn't even grasp the gun effectively or handle the caps . In the' Ohio Village' in Columbus once & perhaps has yet a gun on a beam of the Gunshop (Once Mike Lea worked there ) it had at India company post 1818 'Bakers series ' lock yet had the dog catch added . Thats pure' SWAG' principal but just might be the reason. Welcome to the forum.
Rudyard from NZ

 

[Rudyard]

Well the above observation's are as much as you can ask , we do need photos .But since your from Newfoundland the gun might be for sealing as similar guns where ' Got up ' and the dog catch isn't unknown for such guns the cold lent itself to using flint guns as handling caps in those harsh conditions meant no gloves but you could handle a flint gun without taking off your mitts . I once fired a percussion rifle in 46 below , I was so determined to shoot that day . I manage 8 shots at which point I couldn't even grasp the gun effectively or handle the caps . In the' Ohio Village' in Columbus once & perhaps has yet a gun on a beam of the Gunshop (Once Mike Lea worked there ) it had at India company post 1818 'Bakers series ' lock yet had the dog catch added . Thats pure' SWAG' principal but just might be the reason. Welcome to the forum.
Rudyard from NZ

PS Ime a fan of Stan Rogers. he was a Newfy .
Regards Rudyard

 

[Sam squanch]

It’s very nicely made for a Newfoundland gun! Many were crude. Used to harvest “ Newfoundland steak “ no doubt…..

 

[Macohead]

More pix

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

It is English, probably 1700 to 1720. It's stocked in ash, which isn't uncommon for these utility muskets. I don't believe the brass bands are original, but I'd leave them alone. In fact don't screw with it at all, no "clean up" or anything like that, just leave it alone. It's worth $3000 to $5000 as it sits.

 

[Sam squanch]

Was the stock brand to identify an owner, or ownership by a sealing company?

 

[Rudyard]

The use of the rear side nail does suggest original use in that stocking , & It seems not to have a buttplate dose point to early in date .Brass bands ? & too good for a sealers gun ? .Could be .The Wm 111 guns used bands at least the dragoon carbines did (I made one from Blackmores classic ' British Military Firearms ' page 55). Ime easy if it is early all the better for the OP and it makes his gun an important piece (. Ide jump over a dozen Hawkens & hog rifles rifle's to get to that gun ) .
Regards Rudyard

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

All of the guns of that style I have seen have pinned barrels, not bands. The bands look very unprofessional, homemade and much newer that the rest of the gun. The brands are very similar to some British brands but could have been branded at any time by anybody. I can't quite make them out.

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

I'd slip those bands off and see if the barrels was ever pinned.