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I have a question for you all. I took my 3 week old Lyman Deerstalker out into the rain for a hunt, When I returned I noticed the stock had swelled and cracked in certain areas. I brought it back and got a new one but my question is; is there something I can use to coat the wood to prevent this from happening again or is this what to expect with rain.
 
I use pure ting oil (cut with mineral spirits) with good success. A number of stocks have be soaked without any swelling issue. Also use on M1 Garand stocks as the US government did. Again no issues. Others will way in.
 
Ting: a tung with a stopped up nose :haha: Tung oil does work great though. I have used it on an old springfield,and several mausers. :thumbsup:
 
Tru Oil works fine, too. Back in the day (1903 Springfield days) both Tung oil and boiled linseed oil were used according to availability, according to Phil Sharp ("The American Rifle.") The armory hat vats of both, they heated the oils up and dipped the stocks in the oil and hung them to drip dry. Once coat. No real difference that I can see. Tung may be thinner, if thin is what you want.

In M 14 days, we used Linseed oil.
 
Do not bother with Formby's Tung Oil finish. It simply is too soft and doesn't hold up. OTOH, I have had excellent results with Minwax Tung Oil finish. It penetrates well, will fill the pores after multiple coats, and wears well.

I have a quart of real tung oil, but prefer the Minwax concoction to it.

I think BC Truoil yellows more than Minwax Tung Oil finish.
 
I have used the Birchwood Casey tru-oil and like it. I have only had it on there a year or so but it doesn't have any yellow hue to it yet. I like the feel of it when it's dry, not slippery and not tacky either. Just right in my opinion. Seems to seal well; is hard but not too brittle as far as I can see so far.

Take all the hardware off and seal everything. I haven't done it too my Deerstalker yet but after a hard day in very wet conditions she came in pretty dry considering what it went thru.
 
Gene L said:
Tru Oil works fine, too. Back in the day (1903 Springfield days) both Tung oil and boiled linseed oil were used according to availability, according to Phil Sharp ("The American Rifle.") The armory hat vats of both, they heated the oils up and dipped the stocks in the oil and hung them to drip dry. Once coat. No real difference that I can see. Tung may be thinner, if thin is what you want.

In M 14 days, we used Linseed oil.

I'm surprised the reason the Military stopped using tung oil shortly after they started wasn't mentioned.

When the guns with stocks treated with tung oil were issued, a number of the soldiers receiving these arms ended up in the infirmary.

It seems, some people are very allergic to tung oil and their reactions can be quite severe.

Shortly after finding this, the Army insisted that treating a stock with tung oil be stopped and only linseed oil could be used.
 
Pejay said:
I have a question for you all. I took my 3 week old Lyman Deerstalker out into the rain for a hunt, When I returned I noticed the stock had swelled and cracked in certain areas. I brought it back and got a new one but my question is; is there something I can use to coat the wood to prevent this from happening again or is this what to expect with rain.


Your stock was shipped across the Atlantic Ocean in a container, it was older than 3 weeks.

During it's dunking, how many deer did you see in heavy rain?

I have been hunting since 1957, deer do not move in the rain.

Shame you ruined a stock.
 
Tru Oil it will take about 7-10 coats, wear rubber gloves, it is hard to get off your bare fingers. I use apiece of folded Tee shirt to apply it. Give about 24 hours between coats. Some people will sand or steel wool between coats. I haven't but I put on just enough for the wood to look wet and it has gone on even. I use a circular motion to apply. Then after a week or two, I wax it. If you use the Tru Oil remove all the metal parts that screw on and cover all the wood with the Tru Oil. Another option is wipe on varnish. Danny
 
You can warm the wood with a hair dryer and it will help. I've done a lot of gunstocks with Tru Oil and a piece of clean cotton cloth. I let it dry for a couple of hours after applying it and wipe off the excess with a dry cloth. This will make it dry quicker.

You can get a glass-like finish, if that's what you want. Tru Oil is basically boiled linseed oil with driers to reduce drying time. I've used hardware store boiled linseed oil, and IIRC, it works fine but takes a much longer time to dry.
 
Not my fault he does not have sense to come in out of the rain is it, problem with youngsters again is it not.
 
Richard Eames said:
Pejay said:
I have a question for you all. I took my 3 week old Lyman Deerstalker out into the rain for a hunt, When I returned I noticed the stock had swelled and cracked in certain areas. I brought it back and got a new one but my question is; is there something I can use to coat the wood to prevent this from happening again or is this what to expect with rain.


Your stock was shipped across the Atlantic Ocean in a container, it was older than 3 weeks.

During it's dunking, how many deer did you see in heavy rain?

I have been hunting since 1957, deer do not move in the rain.

Shame you ruined a stock.

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: I must respectfully disagree. Deer and elk here LOVE the rain, I have killed MANY that were grazing away (while moving) in light to moderate rain. My favorite hunt fo a juicy fat cow is a light rain. They are always out (and so are the deer) grazing, twitching there ears n tails and enjoying the day. Note sure about down pours cuz I'm in a car, tent, cave or under a spruce tree.

Deer do move in the rain.
 
azmntman said:
Deer do move in the rain.


DON'T CONTRADICT HIM!!! :wink:

Thinking like that keeps most hunters indoors and dry, so it's real peaceful out there in the rain. The deer are nice and relaxed, plus you can move quieter in the rain than any other time. It's absolutely my favorite time to hunt.
 
I am as well versed in hunting Alaska as you are well versed in hunting East Texas.
 
And therefore broad sweeping statements are foolish!

Actually my deer hunting experience extends a wee bit beyond Alaska. Add Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and western Texas to the list. Haven't actually hunted, but I've had the great pleasure to sit stands with friends in Virginia and North Carolina in recent years too. Rain's pretty dandy in all those places, too.
 
Outside of downpours deer most certainly move during rain.

His deciding to weather a bit of rain may or may not say much about him.

Just as making such statements does about those who make them.
 
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