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I have a lyman made 1858 remington and I would like to know when it was made. Just below the cylinder on the frame is XX7. Under the grips are the numbers 236-- (those are the first 3 numbers out of 5 and I assume that is the serial number.) Anything you guys can tell me about it would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
I had the Dixie Gunworks 1986 or 87 catalog that listed them. All of the "usual suspects" were being offered by Lyman. Can't tell you anymore than that, but it's probably about that vintage.

Hugh
 
Lyman itself did not make the firearms sold under its name.
Of my two '58 rems. (both Lyman):
one is Uberti serial 309xx with xx8 on frame.
second I believed to be Euroarms serial 0264xx with xxx on frame.
all other proof marks are the same on both guns (a star in a circle over a shield, and a star in a circle over PN) stamped on both barrel and frame.

Toomuch
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Shoot Flint
 
My Lyman has the Uberti shield on the barrel and is stamped made in Italy. On the frame is the a circle with what looks like a star and under it a 3 number serial number followed by XX7. So with that low numbered serial number, I am guessing mine was one of the early replicas. Fortunately, mine is in pristine condition in the original box, with a powder flask, nipple wrench, instruction manual and a small tin of caps. I'm hoping to take it to the range soon and see how accurate it is. Should I work up a load ? or just use one of you alls magic loads?
Thanks
OB
 
Yes mine has the uberti logo on it Thanks for the info I had no idea it was almost 40 years old.
 
OB OBrien said:
My Lyman has the Uberti shield on the barrel and is stamped made in Italy. On the frame is the a circle with what looks like a star and under it a 3 number serial number followed by XX7. So with that low numbered serial number, I am guessing mine was one of the early replicas. Fortunately, mine is in pristine condition in the original box, with a powder flask, nipple wrench, instruction manual and a small tin of caps. I'm hoping to take it to the range soon and see how accurate it is. Should I work up a load ? or just use one of you alls magic loads?
Thanks
OB

The xx7 on the frame is not a serial number (I'm unsure of its designation), the serial number is located on the grip pommel.

As for loads as all guns "and shooters" are unique...I would suggest starting at one of our (magic loads) and adjust to your best performance.

Toomuch
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Shoot Flint
 
OK I see the serial number on the pommel. But the 3 numbers on the receiver frame are about an eighth of an inch before the XX7 stamping. Must be a part number?

OK I'll start at one of the magic loads but how much is a starting magic load? :hmm:
 
OB OBrien said:
OK I'll start at one of the magic loads but how much is a starting magic load? :hmm:

Personally (for a .44) I would start around 25gr. of 3F.

Toomuch
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Shoot Flint
 
The rule of thumb for revolvers is half the caliber in powder grains to start so if you have a 44 try 22 grains of 3 f bp to start
 
OB OBrien said:
OK I see the serial number on the pommel. But the 3 numbers on the receiver frame are about an eighth of an inch before the XX7 stamping. Must be a part number?

OK I'll start at one of the magic loads but how much is a starting magic load? :hmm:
The XX7 is a date code for the proof date - it means the gun was proofed in 1971. See Zonie's post above (it's the third one in this thread).
 
Lyman's black powder revolvers were made by Armi San Paolo and Uberti.
Following are models that have been observed. If anyone knows of any others I would like to add them to the list.

Armi San Paolo (Now Euroarms)

1851 Navy
1851 Navy Civilian Model
1860 Army Civilian Model
Remington Beals Army
Remington Beals Navy

Uberti

Remington 1858 New Model Army
Remington 1858 New Model Navy
 

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