Mag-spark 209 conversion

[rebel727]

Well this is a traditional muzzleloader forum. Inlines are not discussed here. I think most of us consider your post borderline at best.

 

[Claude Mathis]

You're right - they are stainless!
I was wrong on the Aluminum aspect.
and the firing mechanism is hardened.
Got one on the way from Warren outdoors.
I could be all "traditional" and use an icebox, but I prefer my refrigerator.
I'm a traditional recurve hunter, but get much better accuracy with XX75 Eastons than cedar.
Guys, I just use what works for me and gives me the performace and predictability I am comfortable with.
Doesn't make me a "traitor" to tradition or sub-intelligent.

Let me toss out a few thoughts.

A little understanding about the members and why they are here will go a long way to understanding how some posts will be received.

Many of the members of this forum are reenactors or living historians. That means, to some degree, they are interested in doing things the old way. Not necessarily in their daily lives, but when shooting or attending events.

Telling us you are a "traditional recurve hunter", yet you choose alloy arrows is bound to seem like a contradiction to some folks. It would be like me saying I'm a traditional muzzleloading hunter, but I like that new "electronic ignition" - Because, "I just use what works for me and gives me the performace and predictability I am comfortable with." That is bound to raise a few eyebrows.

We can all agree that no one is one-hundred percent traditional, but striving to be, is far different than not trying at all.

 

[ldykeman]

He wasn't talking about inlines at all. He was asking about an accessory for a T/C Hawken.
Larry

 

[rebel727]

He wasn't talking about inlines at all. He was asking about an accessory for a T/C Hawken.
Larry

A 209 conversion is still non-traditional. Something originated for the inlines.

 

[ldykeman]

It may be non-traditional, but I have seen these things advertised long before inlines became popular. There are also versions for small rifle primers. These were developed when Pyrodex became popular. Because it has an ignition temp of around 600 degrees, it really needs a hotter ignition than BP. Many people use Pyrodex because of the lack of availability of BP, so things like HotShot nipples, magnum #11 primers, and adapters like the one being discussed in this thread were developed. I, for one, don't have a problem with helping someone out who is making a concerted effort to hunt with a sidelock muzzleloader. If we are all forced to use subs because of draconian laws regarding BP, we may all have to look for alternatives for better ignition. I would much rather see someone choose this device over a modern rifle that happens to be loaded from the muzzle. I am all for enforcing the rules, but it seems to me that this type of device doesn't deviate any more than using coil spring locks, man-made flints, fiber-optic sights, etc.. If I am way off base here, I am sure I will be swiftly and soundly admonished.
Larry

 

[tg]

", but it seems to me that this type of device doesn't deviate any more than using coil spring locks, man-made flints, fiber-optic sights, etc'

Correct but for what it's worth most of the above mentioned are not in the traditional realm either, no flame just fact. The bar seems to get set lower and lower as to what is called traditional, I have not understood why, it is pretty simple for the most part but many just have a need to toss that term around whether appropriate or not, once again no flame towards the original poster, just an observation, and let's save time and not go to the "If They would have had it" thing, or "nobody rides a horse to the rondy" thing, if one just looks to form and function the old and the new seperate pretty quick.

 

[pchwcf50110]

i tried the Mag spark on my .72 Kodiak and found that it worked great. the velocity with 140gr. of Pyrodex P was 90 fps more than with musket caps and 170 fps faster than with #11's and the SD was the smallest. i also found that it eliminated the slight hangfires i would get with musket caps after leaving the rifle loaded for days at a time when hunting.

 

[Scota4570]

The musket cap will do the job with the least fuss. Just get a new nipple. besides musket caps are easiar to handle. I dislike fumbling with itty bitty caps.

I built a 4-bore. #11s would not light real BP. I installed a musket cap nipple and it has never misfired since. I even made a lock for my soda can mortar that uses musket caps, again no misfires. That is a 2.6" bore and up to 500 grain of powder. I was figuring on how to make an adapter for 38 special blanks. I am glad I did not waste my time. Turn out it was completely unnecessary.

Take the time to aquire real powder. It is better in every way. Once you try black you will never go back. :haha: