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[RetiredMedic]

Dose anybody know the manufacture of this rifle.

It has no marking except stating it's a .45 cal.

Here is a picture if it::

 

[brubincam]

C.V.A. :thumbsup:

 

[DBox]

I've got one of those. It's a great little shooter but I just can't fall in love with the 2 piece stock. So I ordered a Kentuckey half stock and I'm building iron furniture for it.

 

[boar]

Don't beleive its a CVA. Have 2 of them and 2 of Jukar. Locks not right. Also have a 2 piece H&A. None of mine have a patchbox. I gave one two my daughter that was made in ITaly, it had a patchbox and looked that. Can't remember if it had 2 piece stock? OLd age thing. Dilly

 

[boar]

Forgot to add,that old age thing, this gun made for 20-20 eyes.Check out that back sight. Long sight plane on that gun. Dilly

 

[omarick1948]

Back in the 70's, several companies imported these in both completed rifles and kits. CVA was one company. I believe most were Spanish made and all I've seen were .45 cal.!

Rick

 

[n.h.schmidt]

Hi
It's not CVA. I have a hawkens type rifle of the same maker. Mine has Monarch on the barrel. It was a kit bought at K-Mart in the late 70's. It is ok in the accuracy department. The lock soon wore out the sear notch on the tumbler on mine. Had to make a new one myself. Been ok since then. Still shoot it sometimes. n.h.schmidt

 

[Runner]

There were a bunch from Japan that looked similar. The trigger is a stamped or cast piece on them that is distinctive.
I don't know much about them, but one had polygon rifling.

 

[bwhoffman]

navy arms??? maybe.

 

[Mountainman56]

Not any CVA I know of. They had a slightly different trigger, a different hammer and a round powder drum.

 

[Pork Chop]

Several companies imported those. Monarch is one, and I believe that Markwell is another. The trigger and breech are identical to my Markwell pistol...

 

[silverfox]

My first look was a Markwell but the Monark also had the same patchbox. To me the CVA was a better looking gun but these worked well as starter guns back when you had little choices.
Fox :thumbsup:

 

[ord sgt]

Looks like a C.V.A. to me. I have one made in the 70's. Triggerguard and trigger are the same as well as the sideplate, nosecap and brass washer in between the 2 piece stock. Patchbox looks to be an add-on. Same beech wood stock as mine. Hammer is only difference that I see.

 

[WV MZL HUNTER]

Ultra-Hi is what it looks like to me. I have one that looks just like yours but it is a flinter..
Made in Japan stamped on the barrel of mine.
I was told here on this form they were made in the 70's and 80's and sold at K-marts.
:hmm:

 

[rdoggsilva]

I built one for my wife in the early 70's. It was a Traditions and they still carry it in rifle and kit form.

 

[Runner]

The CVA/Traditions/Jukar guns have a the small CVA lock and a drum system. This gun has a snail type breech. The lock is all wrong for anything CVA ever used on these type of rifles also. The CVA trigger is nothing like the one in the picture. The wrist of the stock is different also. Ultra-Hi was the name I could not remember. That is the name of the ones that looked like that from Japan.

 

[RetiredMedic]

The guy wants $100.00 for it..

Are these safe to shoot???

Gun is in excellent condition..

 

[arcticap]

That is similar to an unfired Ultra-Hi Miroku Kentucky .45 that I recently sold. Mine had a slightly undersized bore that measured 2 to 3 thousandths less land to land. It was recommended to shoot it with .433 balls and a .10 patch.
[url] http://www.muzzleloadingforum...d/213239/post/486803/hl//fromsearch/1/#486803[/url]

Here's another thread about Miroku guns:
[url] http://www.muzzleloadingforum...st/390597/hl/miroku/fromsearch/1/#390597[/url]

 

[MikeChapin]

My guess is an old CVA Kentucky or Miroku. I would lean towards the CVA. I have an old CVA Colonial pistol that was given to me in 1976 that has the same lock, patent breech, side plate and stamped steel trigger.

These were the style sold until CVA came up the their new breaching system and lost the side plate in favor two brass washers.

 

[Pork Chop]

Am I the only one that noticed that the lock is inletted going downhill?