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both of mine 2021 and 2022 have pretty fast looking twists. at least 1in 20 why would you do a slow twist for RB when all the good RB target pistols have 1/18 1/20 etc.
 
so I was able to find my way around the pietta site and the 1858 and 1851 do in fact have 1/30 twist but that seems to be plenty for conicals in my 1858. looking down the barrel it certainly does not look like a slow twist.
 
both of mine 2021 and 2022 have pretty fast looking twists. at least 1in 20 why would you do a slow twist for RB when all the good RB target pistols have 1/18 1/20 etc.
I’m not sure why they chose to use a slower 1:30” twist. Their Shooter’s Model uses the original gain twist I believe I’ve read. I would assume since it’s a base pistol, mostly for reenactors, collectors, and enthusiasts. I’d venture to guess it’s cheaper/easier than a faster twist. But it’s just a guess.
 
so I was able to find my way around the pietta site and the 1858 and 1851 do in fact have 1/30 twist but that seems to be plenty for conicals in my 1858. looking down the barrel it certainly does not look like a slow twist.
My 2013 is not a slow twist. It’s roughly 1:16”. It’s a Sheriff’s model.
 
I put two steiner tractor catalogs together and a stack of Muzzle blast magazines for a total of 4 1/2 inches of news print and glossy print. 200g lee conical 25g T7 most of them went all the way through. I found two of them, the larger one went through both tractor parts catalogs and about an inch of magazines and was recovered in the magazines, the smaller one went all the way through everything and a sheet of 1/4 inch plywood and recovered in the dirt . pictured next to a .495 RB they both felt at least as heavy as the unfired .50 cal ball
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I put two steiner tractor catalogs together and a stack of Muzzle blast magazines for a total of 4 1/2 inches of news print and glossy print. 200g lee conical 25g T7 most of them went all the way through. I found two of them, the larger one went through both tractor parts catalogs and about an inch of magazines and was recovered in the magazines, the smaller one went all the way through everything and a sheet of 1/4 inch plywood and recovered in the dirt . pictured next to a .495 RB they both felt at least as heavy as the unfired .50 cal ballView attachment 363394
That will do nicely for whatever you need to stay hit.
 
It is impossible to overload it as long as you are using real black powder. Even 4 FFG.
In my experience that also applies for pyrodex p, ruger old army have been loaded to the chamber mouth then compressed and refilled twice more then seat a ball and lubed. Don't know just how much powder that was felt recoil seemed like a .44 special.
 
With 25g of t7 there is enough room for both a 200g conical and a.454 rb. I think the move would be to try two round balls first... That would be a nasty load. Wouldn't be brave enough to do that to my 1858 .. I want to keep this one..
 
In my experience that also applies for pyrodex p, ruger old army have been loaded to the chamber mouth then compressed and refilled twice more then seat a ball and lubed. Don't know just how much powder that was felt recoil seemed like a .44 special.

I will add that to my experiment list. One chamber only! I have seen 1100 fps with 777, have to check fo lead after a load like that.
 
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