Micro adjustable powder measure?

[mooman76]

I have an older set and a new set. The older(red) ones measured differently.

 

[YJake]

The only way to get a real accurate measure would be measuring by weight. If you measure by volume, tapping the measure when it is full of powder will cause it to settle thereby changing the volume.

I’ve always tapped my measure to settle the powder, then wiped the excess on top back into the can so that it’s level on top. I’m not sure if that’s right or not, but it’s how I measure my charges for everything from plinking to hunting. Using a chronograph, it made my velocities very consistent.

-Jake

 

[hawkeye2]

I’ve always tapped my measure to settle the powder, then wiped the excess on top back into the can so that it’s level on top. I’m not sure if that’s right or not, but it’s how I measure my charges for everything from plinking to hunting. Using a chronograph, it made my velocities very consistent.

-Jake

It's right if you follow the same procedure with every charge. When I use my Lyman 55 I flip the little "hammer" twice with my forefinger every time before removing the cartridge. When I use my Lee I tap the side of the measure once for each charge.

 

[Rudyard]

Though I' ve two of Carl Kuiens nice measures. I generally go with a modified C case or the flasks charger . I do think it a comfort to pre weight charge potules for match shooting , One less variable to consider .For all other practicle purposes. I doubt it matters overly once you determin a charge that suits you .
Rudyard

 

[SOLANCO]

The only way to get a real accurate measure would be measuring by weight. If you measure by volume, tapping the measure when it is full of powder will cause it to settle thereby changing the volume.

As a relative newbie and for curiosity are you supposed to tap the measure and then top it off? Don't recall noticing anyone at the range doing so.

 

[Old Hawkeye]

As a relative newbie and for curiosity are you supposed to tap the measure and then top it off? Don't recall noticing anyone at the range doing so.

It doesn't matter if you "tap" the measure or not. The important thing is you fill your measure the SAME WAY each time. It's about being consistent in your method, not what method you use. Do it the way you feel comfortable with, but just do it the same every time & your volume measured charges will be as close to being the same as the "technology" will allow.

 

[Grenadier1758]

What you are supposed to do when measuring out a certain volume of powder is you are supposed to perform the measuring consistently. I have a measure that is attached to the can. I turn the can over and open the valve and shake the can five times to fill the measure. Then I close the valve, remove the measure, and set the can upright. I have a funnel to place in the barrel when I pour the powder. The empty measure is returned to cap the can. The funnel in the barrel remains until I have ball and patch ready to load as a physical reminder that I have powder at the breech.

When I load from my horn for the out of the pouch shooting. I fill the measure, level off the top and load. I do not tap the measure and top off. The difference is only about 2 grains weight at most. With black powder being somewhat inefficient, there is little to gain by tapping the measure and topping off.

 

[rodwha]

It's not that I'm that concerned w/ precision but more about having the ability to try an 18 gr. or perhaps a 22 gr. charge without having to guess.

I took my rifle measure in 10 grn increments and scratched in marks in the middle to give me 5 grns increments. From there I can eye the middle of that for a rough idea on 2.5 grn increments for my revolvers.

 

[MSW]

i think the real "trick" (if you want to call it that) is consistency ... if you do it wrong the exact same way each time, you will get a repeatable result. Only change one variable at a time. Make small changes. Write down everything.

 

[Cpt Flint]

There is a Belding and Mull micro adjustable measure on eBay that is exactly what you want. This is not the complete powder measure, just the brass measuring tube with
micro adjustments.

 

[Cpt Flint]

Disregard my previous post. That is not the one. Go on eBay and find a B and M measure.
It won’t make any difference but you might like a new toy.

 

[Boomerang]

Yep, consistently is the name of the game and only change one variable at a time until you are satisfied with the results.

 

[TexasAndy]

There is a Belding and Mull micro adjustable measure on eBay that is exactly what you want. This is not the complete powder measure, just the brass measuring tube with
micro adjustments.

So to be clear is this a volumetric measure for use with BP and it's replacements?

 

[oldwood]

Love to make powder measures to go into customer's shot pouch and for new gun. decided to check my collection of 5 or so old brass adjustable powder measures. Couldn't believe they were so inaccurate ,a couple I've used for years were 8 gr. off. Any way , cut some 7/16" brass tubing , soldered a bottom on them w/ a hole for a lanyard cord . Intentionally left them long so each could be ground off until they were accurate to w/in 2gr or so..........oldwood

 

[hawkeye2]

So to be clear is this a volumetric measure for use with BP and it's replacements?

Most measures except the electronic ones dispense powder by volume. The user usually sets the measure by weight and should check random charges by weighing but once set they throw a constant volume thought changes in technique like tapping the measure one time and not the next can change the volume thrown.

The Belding & Mull measure is a volume measure which was designed decades before the black powder craze but is used by a lot of black powder shooters specially those shooting long range cartridge matches. To the best of my knowledge it works with all powders though there may be some smokeless ones that it isn't compatible with and it's safe and accurate for black and subs. B&M closed their doors many years ago (there's a current Belding & Mull but it ain't the same animal) and the only ways to find them are auctions and shows or you can buy one of the Montana Vintage Arms recreations. Don't bid/buy one unless it's complete including a drop tube. The parts are available from time to time but you'll end up spending more money than getting a complete unit. I don't know if the MVA drop tube will work with a B&M but a phone call would probably get an answer. I did buy an extra original B&M tube for mine and had to reduce the diameter of the top of it to fit into my measure. Refer back to my posts #7 & #10.

 

[ssettle]

I'm looking for options in a measure that will allow me to do smaller increments than just 5 grains. Do you fine fellows know of a product or perhaps have any ideas you can share?

Maybe loading blackpowder cartridges for long range

 

[Archer 756]

Why not do as NSSA shooters do use a scale, pre measure, and put in powder container ready to load