Muskeg Stomper said:Funny thing with some folks. I read Dan's post and simply thought "I don't agree with him". 'Course I've also read lot's of Dan's other posts and thought to myself "Boy, this guy is someone I can learn things from".
Opinions and honest discussions are one of the things that makes this forum great but two word opinions don't add much to my knowledge base. :haha:
B Shipman said:The Indians, in truth are capable of great quality at a most modest price. Log Cabin Shop used to sell hand forged mainsprings for Siler locks. Perfect and finished. I couldn't finish one for he price. Flawless. Made in India.
TOF sells a handforged T.G. An almost an xact copy of the Bean cast guard that's been offered for 30 years. It sells for less than the casting. And the workmanship is perfect. I bought one.
I have no idea, but I'll eat my shorts if this is'nt made in India. That being said....
Not even the Indians can make a quality musket for $800. Remember excise and manufacturng taxes and middlemen and many shippings add greatly to the cost. Our custom stuff is a bargain.
A Pedersoli Brown Bess, by contrast, is tough as nails, authentic , and gives vast years of fun and reliable service. If you've used one of these, you're not going to be interested in an $800 job.
B Shipman said:That being said....
Not even the Indians can make a quality musket for $800.
mr.fudd said:B Shipman said:That being said....
Not even the Indians can make a quality musket for $800.
You know I missed this the first time around.
Now there's no way I'm going to argue that the Indian made muskets are high quality, but the idea that a high quality musket couldn't be made for less than $800 sounds ludicrous. I mean there's a lock, a very long smoothbore barrel and a longer than normal stock, but by and large it's an extremely simple design intended for users who won't complain about minute of man accuracy at 50 yards.
Sure, no custom maker could do it for that price, but they're entirely different than a manufacturer churning out thousands of an item. I'd bet that TC or Traditions could easily turn out a good musket with a price under $800 and I'd bet Norinco could do it for quite a bit less.
Russ T Frizzen said:Not likely. The Norinco made musket would probably be hard to tell from the Indian one. A true musket with a decent flintlock and a quality 46" barrel and a one piece walnut stock plus decent furniture and good fit and finish is going to be expensive even when mass produced. T/C isn't going to go there, and I doubt if there is a big market for a Spanish built musket at that price tier.
Dan Phariss said:Hot dog!!! Lets import some MORE stuff from communist China.
People could speak with pride, "my musket was made with slave labor".
Dan
Russ T Frizzen said:djack said:You suck
It's always nice to have another thoughtful and gentlemanly muzzleloading enthusiast join the forum. One who shares our love of history and the old guns and times long past. Sadly, we got you instead...
Dan Phariss said:Hot dog!!! Lets import some MORE stuff from communist China.
People could speak with pride, "my musket was made with slave labor".
Dan
Mike Brooks said:Hey, I really resent the fact that Dan is the one who sucks now. :cursing: I used to be the one who sucked........ :haha:
Mike Brooks said:Hey, I really resent the fact that Dan is the one who sucks now. :cursing: I used to be the one who sucked........ :haha:
mr.fudd said:Dan Phariss said:Hot dog!!! Lets import some MORE stuff from communist China.
People could speak with pride, "my musket was made with slave labor".
Dan
Heck, four years from now the Chinese will be more capitalist than we are.
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