military heritage.com, ho has exp. with them?

[zerrie]

Hi

I'm from Flanders (Bruges). I'm surching some time now for a musket. There's an organisation that sell muskets. But I would like to know more about the organisation and there product from there clients. So if you have any experience with them and if you would like to share it with me and other people, let us know
Ho has experience with the muskets at Military[url] Heritage.com[/url]?

thanks from Jerry

 

[Twisted_1in66]

Hi

I'm from Flanders (Bruges). I'm surching some time now for a musket. There's an organisation that sell muskets. But I would like to know more about the organisation and there product from there clients. So if you have any experience with them and if you would like to share it with me and other people, let us know
Ho has experience with the muskets at Military[url] Heritage.com[/url]?

thanks from Jerry

Their prices look really good, but they ship the "guns" without the vent hole in the barrel. If you want to use it, you have to get the hole drilled in the barrel. Seems a little shaky to me, but I haven't bought anything from them. Here's what they say about sending the guns in a "non-firing state" (quoted from their web site):

"Non-firing State

We sell historically accurate muskets as a non-firing state. This allows us to comply with local, state, national and international firearms regulations. A certified gunsmith may alter this musket to a firing state by drilling the vent hole and test firing it. We are not legally responsible for any alteration from its present non-firing state."
:shocking: :shocking: :shocking: :nono: :shake:

I put the italics in the last part to make sure it stood out. Basically they are saying they make non-firing replicas and are not responsible for the safety of the gun if you shoot it.

I was thinking about purchasing one of the F&I muskets from them until I read that on their web site.

You might want to take a look at Middlesex Village Trading Company. I haven't purchased from them either, but at least they"ll send you a musket that works.

 

[Donny]

Several companies sell their product in a non-working condition, to avoid local tax and general liability issues. St. Louis Plains Rifle Co. (Don Stith) and Caywood build a most excellent product, but sell the gun...without the lock included. Of course you can be directed where to purchase a lock. This takes them off the hook, I suppose. Mil. Hertiage is in essence doing the same, as any idiot can drill a hole, and make it a fully functional arm. I would not let this be an issue on weather to purchase. :: I would use the disclaimer if I was selling a screwdriver. :winking:

 

[CrackStock]

Actually, not quite the same. The first group is selling a gun without a flash/vent hole in order to call it a wall hanger for import/export purposes.

The others are dodging a couple of other questions. They are giving you a complete barrel which is intended to be shot along with everything but a lock. The reasons for not selling such a vital component is that they are selling you the parts and you are responsible for the Pittman Robertsom taxes upon final assembly. It also gets them out of the lock purchasing and supporting business which they would likely be getting from one else anyway. Then they do not have to support what they did not sell. Makes sense?

Of course, this allows you to pick your lock.

YMHS,
CrackStock

 

[Thunderbolt]

I've just bought a Sea Service Pistol from this company and the vent hole was not drilled, as advertised. If you don't know what to do in order to make the gun into a firing condition, leave it to a gunsmith. Important factors to take into consideration is the size of the hole , its position related to the pan and weather to use a nipple or not. In my re-enactment group we have experienced people to deal with this, and they know exactly what to do.
I know that your gun will be a musket, but the function of a flint lock system is similar as it is for a pistol.
My handgun was delivered as expected in due time from Canada to Norway.

 

[Wes/Tex]

Those undrilled touch holes are little more than a problem solver for international sales. The headaches of importing and exporting "Firearms" can be devistating to, from or through certain countries. As for touch hole drilling, I can kick in the help with what's worked great for me. Center the hole in the center of the pan with the bottom of the hole on an imaginary line from the top of both sides of the pan's upper lip. Several old gun makers have used the quote "the higher, the better" adn it seems to be good advise. Have had good luck using .078" drill for FFg or .060" for FFFg. Some use slightly larger or smaller drills but those have worked well for me. Good luck and have fun. :front:

 

[zerrie]

ok

 

[urdubob]

Just recieve a brown bess....mine looks like a piece of Dog doo-doo. I am sending it back monday. Wood is ugly and lots of small filled cracks. The metal did not look too bad....looked over polished. Kind of like a 18th century pimp gun.


urdubob

 

[Puffer]

Just joined this forum so please bear with me
I have had "experience w/ this co.& here is my opinion :m2c:
1.VERY poor cust. service ( do not respond to inquiries until they are pushed )
2.-VERY slow shipping ( 3 mo on Baker tifle, & still do not have 2 other items I ordered 4 mo. ago )
3. - Quality varies,ie: Scots pistol ---Good,
Baker rifle ---- Rough
Note - Baker was made in India & came unrifled.Talked to the gunsmith,they recomend to rifle the gun. He Replaces the barrel w/1 from the Rifle Shoppe & only "salvages the bayone lug & sends the "old" barrel back w/ the new one, . Cost = $200.00 My total cost was $600.00. After I "honed the action, it shoots good.
The reason I went this way was because I wanted a Baker to go with my Jager & could not "justify" the $$$ of on from the Rifle Shoppe ( I am waiting for him to finish a Fergason for me)
Puffer