you can have just one
Correct, but the cut separating the loading muzzle from the barrel was made before rifling. Afterward both pieces were clamped together and rifling the barrel would commence. If not done in this fashion the kerf from the cut would not allow perfect alignment of the rifling in both pieces.Most did. Ned Robert's fine book on muzzleloading has wonderful pics and descriptions.
The False Muzzle was cut from the existing barrel, then pinned to align the bullet into the bore, IIRC.
They may have 2 millions subscribers but you have something they don't have, respect.That's exactly what I'm talking about. If I poured straight black powder down the barrel from the container with no measurer of any kind in a recently fired gun, my viewers would crucify me!
Those guys can get away with that since they have 2 million subscribers.
Correct me if I'm wrong. If you have a mesh that makes 2f, wont there be some finer grains mixed in? If there were no fine powder, why did some original bags have a priming horn?In England there were multiple grades of Black Powder. I have a book on double guns made from 18th through 20th century, and among other interesting info is a sheet of velocities with the different grades of Powder from a Major Gun firm.
It appears to have been a big thing then, to some people, same as today.
Correct me if I'm wrong. If you have a mesh that makes 2f, wont there be some finer grains mixed in? If there were no fine powder, why did some original bags have a priming horn?
Yes you would have a mix of sizes. What happens then is it's put through a finer screen, and a finer one untill you have 2,3,and 4f. So, yes there was finer powders, but it wasn't common.
I guess that he used under sized RB'S, in his gun. so didn't need one. I am sure that ha was aware of all of the items that he needed? jmho. BW-that is a beautiful set up, and with provenance!Ran into this interesting photo some years back…..Just about everything one could imagine…but no short starter…
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You only need to see a short started barrel blow up once to make you a believer. I've seen barrels bulged and I've seen barrels blow up. To say it doesn't happen is wrong and irresponsible. If you did it with no Ill effects.... Lucky you!The "Pipe Bomb" theory seems to be a myth. If you don't seat a projectile all the way down tight against the powder the barrel will not suddenly blow apart. Using an inexpensive rifle (Traditions Deer Hunter) I purposely loaded a full charge, but pushed the ball in only as far as the short starter would allow (about 5-inches). Even with 100-grains of 3F Goex, the ball blew out of the barrel with no harm to the rifle (or me!). This has been demonstrated on YouTube and elsewhere by other people may times too.
In an unmentionable, a squib that sticks the projectile in the barrel and then if "fired" again with the second projectile a full load and the squib stuck - can and will blow up the barrel. I've done this too, but not on purpose!
Maybe if you loaded your ML fully and then inadvertently put a second projectile in that was partially seated - maybe that would blow up the barrel. Just having a single projectile in the barrel off the powder ain't gonna blow it up though.
Ran into this interesting photo some years back…..Just about everything one could imagine…but no short starter…
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Model a Sedan33 Model A Ford
The shrapnel coming off that exploded barrel looked like an old school hand gernade, the old pineapple type.watching the U-tube of the 2 guys trying to blow up a barrel, if you slow down the video to 25% speed at moment of ignition it looks like you can see the barrel actually flex upward !
I shot my first muzzleloader for YEARS without a short starter. Somehow I survived.I guess that he used under sized RB'S, in his gun. so didn't need one. I am sure that ha was aware of all of the items that he needed? jmho. BW-that is a beautiful set up, and with provenance!
Thanks.Correct me if I'm wrong. If you have a mesh that makes 2f, wont there be some finer grains mixed in? If there were no fine powder, why did some original bags have a priming horn?
Love your avatar! Is that a '33 Model A Ford? I got to ride in one in a Christmas parade when I was a kid. The car ahead of us was a 1926 Packard Twin 6 Roadster. I remember the sound of that engine to this day.
What you said was that it seems to be a myth. It is far from a myth. I believe we've all read hunting stories about hunters inadvertently plugging their barrels with snow or mud with catastrophic results. You are right, it is not a given that it happens 100% of the time but when it does happen. It can be deadly.I did not say a barrel can’t blow up or bulge. What I said was that it doesn’t automatically turn into a pipe bomb. Of course you shouldn’t intentionally do this, why would you. If it were accidental, well you wouldn’t realize you did it. The peace of mind is knowing that if you ever do this accidentally no bad is automatic and actually odds are favorable that there will be no ill effect.
Cartridge guns use different steel than muzzleloaders. Also the breeches are reinforced and they use slower burning powders.If you leave an air gap of any size between the top of the powder and the bottom of the bullet, when you pull the trigger it causes the barrel to explode, destroy your eyes and fingers and kill the people either side of you. This is true because I read it on the internet. If mentioned enough times it becomes the truth.
This does not apply to those shooters who load their bullets 1/16” in front of their cartridges.
I meant to say '31. It had the slant windscreen.Thanks.
The last year of production for the Ford Model A is 1931. Mine is a bone stock 1930 Fordor.
Actually smokeless powder is all over the burn rate from slow to ultra fast. you can get 60,000 PSI with 20 grains of some modern powders.Cartridge guns use different steel than muzzleloaders. Also the breeches are reinforced and they use slower burning powders.
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