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My First Longrifle!!!
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We live in a disposable culture. When we buy something we know it has a limited life span. Because of this we accept lower quality and style in exchange for a lower price.
Back then if you bought something it would be the best you could afford and you expected it to last generations. I have never read that any group actively looked at buying something because it was not decorated. I could see this happening in some religious communities who shun decorations.
In some respects you can think of a rifle back then like a car today. Some will buy the plain version some will buy add-ons. Some will add all the flash they can to show off. Some will let the performance of their machine do their showing off. In all cases they actively try to take care of what they have because it is a major investment.
Foster From Flint
Back then if you bought something it would be the best you could afford and you expected it to last generations. I have never read that any group actively looked at buying something because it was not decorated. I could see this happening in some religious communities who shun decorations.
In some respects you can think of a rifle back then like a car today. Some will buy the plain version some will buy add-ons. Some will add all the flash they can to show off. Some will let the performance of their machine do their showing off. In all cases they actively try to take care of what they have because it is a major investment.
Foster From Flint
We live in a disposable culture. When we buy something we know it has a limited life span. Because of this we accept lower quality and style in exchange for a lower price.
Back then if you bought something it would be the best you could afford and you expected it to last generations. I have never read that any group actively looked at buying something because it was not decorated. I could see this happening in some religious communities who shun decorations.
In some respects you can think of a rifle back then like a car today. Some will buy the plain version some will buy add-ons. Some will add all the flash they can to show off. Some will let the performance of their machine do their showing off. In all cases they actively try to take care of what they have because it is a major investment.
Foster From Flint
Back then if you bought something it would be the best you could afford and you expected it to last generations. I have never read that any group actively looked at buying something because it was not decorated. I could see this happening in some religious communities who shun decorations.
In some respects you can think of a rifle back then like a car today. Some will buy the plain version some will buy add-ons. Some will add all the flash they can to show off. Some will let the performance of their machine do their showing off. In all cases they actively try to take care of what they have because it is a major investment.
Foster From Flint
I think that in general the lack of decor compared to the Golden age guns was just part of the evolution of the longrifle, it was getting close to the time of mass production and individual artwork on rifles was fading in most areas compared to what was once the norm.
I think that in general the lack of decor compared to the Golden age guns was just part of the evolution of the longrifle, it was getting close to the time of mass production and individual artwork on rifles was fading in most areas compared to what was once the norm.
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Unlike other monikers, "poorboy" is not a school or a region or a pattern so it is simpler to define.
On SM and TN rifles the "poorboy" name is generally given to guns which lack one, some or all of the following: buttplate, sideplate or washers, entry thimble, and patchbox. Sometimes they had a less elaborate trigger guard and only one ramrod thimble.
On iron mounted guns each piece of hardware was fashioned by hand or forged. By deleting these items cost was kept down.
None of these items is considered "decoration"...each is a functional part of the firearm although not neccessary to make the gun fire.
The functional quality of a "poorboy" was generally the same but made more affordable by deleting these extras.
The rifle we have here is not a "poorboy".
Enjoy, J.D.
On SM and TN rifles the "poorboy" name is generally given to guns which lack one, some or all of the following: buttplate, sideplate or washers, entry thimble, and patchbox. Sometimes they had a less elaborate trigger guard and only one ramrod thimble.
On iron mounted guns each piece of hardware was fashioned by hand or forged. By deleting these items cost was kept down.
None of these items is considered "decoration"...each is a functional part of the firearm although not neccessary to make the gun fire.
The functional quality of a "poorboy" was generally the same but made more affordable by deleting these extras.
The rifle we have here is not a "poorboy".
Enjoy, J.D.
jdkerstetter
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Unlike other monikers, "poorboy" is not a school or a region or a pattern so it is simpler to define.
On SM and TN rifles the "poorboy" name is generally given to guns which lack one, some or all of the following: buttplate, sideplate or washers, entry thimble, and patchbox. Sometimes they had a less elaborate trigger guard and only one ramrod thimble.
None of these items is considered "decoration"...each is a functional part of the firearm although not neccessary to make the gun fire.
This region was an anomoly in the time line of the longrifle and has little to do with the evolution of it. There were guns being made the same way here into the 20th century. Even today some areas are kind of a time capsule.
On iron mounted SM/TN guns each piece of hardware, often the barrel and sometimes the lock, was fashioned by hand or forged. By deleting items cost was kept down.
Many of the people of the region these guns came from were and still are poor but practicle and willing to forego decoration and extras on their guns as they did in everyday life.
The functional quality of a "poorboy" was generally the same but made more affordable by deleting these "extras".
The rifle we have here is not a "poorboy".
Enjoy, J.D.
On SM and TN rifles the "poorboy" name is generally given to guns which lack one, some or all of the following: buttplate, sideplate or washers, entry thimble, and patchbox. Sometimes they had a less elaborate trigger guard and only one ramrod thimble.
None of these items is considered "decoration"...each is a functional part of the firearm although not neccessary to make the gun fire.
This region was an anomoly in the time line of the longrifle and has little to do with the evolution of it. There were guns being made the same way here into the 20th century. Even today some areas are kind of a time capsule.
On iron mounted SM/TN guns each piece of hardware, often the barrel and sometimes the lock, was fashioned by hand or forged. By deleting items cost was kept down.
Many of the people of the region these guns came from were and still are poor but practicle and willing to forego decoration and extras on their guns as they did in everyday life.
The functional quality of a "poorboy" was generally the same but made more affordable by deleting these "extras".
The rifle we have here is not a "poorboy".
Enjoy, J.D.
The term "Poorboy' get tossed around pretty loosley from what I have seen and kind of throws a wide net so to speak .... 
well I probably just started another fight with those better informed than myself who do not want to hear about thoughts on gun terminology :idunno: I just need to try and learn more so I do not do that as often I suppose, Hey! JD do you or Brooks tutor on the side?...or sitting up or standing as far as that goes?
well I probably just started another fight with those better informed than myself who do not want to hear about thoughts on gun terminology :idunno: I just need to try and learn more so I do not do that as often I suppose, Hey! JD do you or Brooks tutor on the side?...or sitting up or standing as far as that goes?jdkerstetter
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Brother your good...you got the wife and I both laughing that time!
....sitting or standing.... :haha: :haha:
Enjoying, J.D.
....sitting or standing.... :haha: :haha:
Enjoying, J.D.
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If you want a picture of a Poorboy I'll post my picture. That sir is a good looking rifle. Just because it doesn't have a nose cap nor a entry pipe does not make it less of a rifle. The rifles I choose to make have open nose caps ( no end on them). Doesn't make them less of a gun. Is it fun to shoot?
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let us know how it shoots ... i bet you're going to have a boatload of fun with your new gun.
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