My French Dueling Pistol!

[AAOG]

My fhater and me are gunmakers... We made all you see

 

[Enfield58]

My fhater and me are gunmakers... We made all you see

Excellent workmanship!

 

[Patrick Thomas]

Excellent workmanship!

Indeed!!

 

[Enfield58]

AAOG is not helping me beat my black powder addiction. I've always been fascinated with cased dueling pistols and he hasn't helped me defeat that deep-seated desire to own a set.

I discovered that an online retailer has some deeply discounted Pedersoli Charles Moore Flintlock Target Pistols for sale. Quantities are limited.

Please forgive my selfishness but I won't say what retailer has them discounted as I am close to making a decision to pull out the debit card and get me a pair. I don't want to see a run on the pistols and their supply exhausted before I can purchase a couple.

That way I can be on my way to putting together my own cased set of dueling pistols.

So my question is; what are everyone's thoughts? Is this a good pistol? If I can put together a nice cased set, I will be shooting them not just looking at them.

 

[AAOG]

AAOG is not helping me beat my black powder addiction. I've always been fascinated with cased dueling pistols and he hasn't helped me defeat that deep-seated desire to own a set.

I discovered that an online retailer has some deeply discounted Pedersoli Charles Moore Flintlock Target Pistols for sale. Quantities are limited.

Please forgive my selfishness but I won't say what retailer has them discounted as I am close to making a decision to pull out the debit card and get me a pair. I don't want to see a run on the pistols and their supply exhausted before I can purchase a couple.

That way I can be on my way to putting together my own cased set of dueling pistols.

So my question is; what are everyone's thoughts? Is this a good pistol? If I can put together a nice cased set, I will be shooting them not just looking at them.

Jaajjajaa!!! The dueling pistols on case are existing!!
Don't worry, go to your seller and purchase that pair!! I'm the manufacturer of the pistols and the case of this post!
I don't need purchase nothing!!
Feel free, and make reality your wish!
Greetings!

 

[Enfield58]

Jaajjajaa!!! The dueling pistols on case are existing!!
Don't worry, go to your seller and purchase that pair!! I'm the manufacturer of the pistols and the case of this post!
I don't need purchase nothing!!
Feel free, and make reality your wish!
Greetings!

Cherry's was the store. They only had one pistol in stock. It was on sale for $595. The same pistol retails at DGW for $200 more.

So, I'll see how good it is and probably see how I can get another one at DGW unless it's cheaper somewhere else.

 

[AZbpBurner]

Might be, the way I remember the story both lived, that would rule out Burr Hamilton and I may easily be confusing stories

Hamilton died the day after the duel.

 

[tenngun]

Hamilton died the day after the duel.

I didn’t think it was Hamilton Burr, but could be wrong. Read a bit, confuse a story or two, after some years they run together, and you make up something in your own head.
So, I had to look it up. The story I was thinking about was was Henry clay Secretary of State and senator John Randolph in 1826.
Randolph did not shoot a hair trigger and protested it to Clays second named Tatnall. Tatnall insisted and the dual was carried out. Randolph set the gun off eart and yelled “I protest the Hair trigger”
The seconds accused him of cowardice but Clay stopped it all by saying it was an accident and allowed Randolph to reload.
The dual resumed and Clay missed his shot. Randolph thenfired in to the air.
Before the dual Randolph said to his seconds he would not kill Clay but would stand his fire.

 

[MSW]

GEORGOUS!!

 

[dave_person]

Hi AAOG,
You did very well. Those are nice pistols and I am sure they are excellent shooters. Here is a set of English pistols inspired by Robert Wogdon that I built for my brother. I built the locks and everything else except the barrels, oil bottle, cleaning jags, woolen baize lining material, and hardware for the mahogany case. English dueling pistols generally had "hair" triggers that were essentially single set triggers. Often they were permanently adjusted by the gunsmith but sometimes had set screws visible. I need to get back to building more of these. I have barrels, set triggers, most hardware, and wood for 3 more sets but the problem has always been getting the right locks. There are no commercially made flintlocks that are suitable.

dave

 

[Enfield58]

Hi AAOG,
You did very well. Those are nice pistols and I am sure they are excellent shooters. Here is a set of English pistols inspired by Robert Wogdon that I built for my brother. I built the locks and everything else except the barrels, oil bottle, cleaning jags, woolen baize lining material, and hardware for the mahogany case. English dueling pistols generally had "hair" triggers that were essentially single set triggers. Often they were permanently adjusted by the gunsmith but sometimes had set screws visible. I need to get back to building more of these. I have barrels, set triggers, most hardware, and wood for 3 more sets but the problem has always been getting the right locks. There are no commercially made flintlocks that are suitable.

dave

Those aren't just pistols. They are works of art.

 

[drobs]

Beautiful guns Gentlemen.

Cherry's was the store. They only had one pistol in stock. It was on sale for $595. The same pistol retails at DGW for $200 more.

So, I'll see how good it is and probably see how I can get another one at DGW unless it's cheaper somewhere else.

I suffer from a similar malady. I like having pairs of revolvers. For now they are all shooters but some day there will be wooden cases and accouterments to put them on display.

 

[dave_person]

Hi,
Sometimes we forget that dueling pistols cases were not for display. They were to protect the guns during travel. In the UK, at least, the case was supplied with a leather case cover similar to what I made. In addition, the British-style partition walls holding the pistols were wider at the base and narrower at the top. That creates a slight "V" such that the pistols are cradled snugly and do not rattle around. You can see the taper in the photos below. Also I show the shape of the outside and compartment edge trim showing the shoulder of "baize line" as it is called. The baize line gives everything a nice tidy appearance.

dave

 

[DOUBLEDEUCE 1]

Dave Person.... Stunning work !

 

[Enfield58]

Hi,
Sometimes we forget that dueling pistols cases were not for display. They were to protect the guns during travel. In the UK, at least, the case was supplied with a leather case cover similar to what I made. In addition, the British-style partition walls holding the pistols were wider at the base and narrower at the top. That creates a slight "V" such that the pistols are cradled snugly and do not rattle around. You can see the taper in the photos below. Also I show the shape of the outside and compartment edge trim showing the shoulder of "baize line" as it is called. The baize line gives everything a nice tidy appearance.

dave

Did you start of with a wooden case/box to work with or did you make everything from scratch? BTW, beautiful work.

 

[Rat]

Right, does not seem likely, in the days of the duel, that the pistols would be on display or shown-off. But, I bet that when the boys were sitting around, smoking a cigar and drinking some fine whiskey or brandy, the might come out to be admired. ??

 

[dave_person]

Did you start of with a wooden case/box to work with or did you make everything from scratch? BTW, beautiful work.

Hi,
I made everything but the fabric, case lock and hinges, oil bottle, and cleaning jag. Do an internet search for "making an 18th century pistol case" and you will find a 5-part tutorial that I did on making an historically correct case. The tutorial also provides a lot of history about those cases. There are also a few You Tube videos out there showing how to make a pistol case. Unfortunately they leave a lot to be desired and are pretty poor guides.

dave

 

[Rat]

Hi AAOG,
You did very well. Those are nice pistols and I am sure they are excellent shooters. Here is a set of English pistols inspired by Robert Wogdon that I built for my brother. I built the locks and everything else except the barrels, oil bottle, cleaning jags, woolen baize lining material, and hardware for the mahogany case. English dueling pistols generally had "hair" triggers that were essentially single set triggers. Often they were permanently adjusted by the gunsmith but sometimes had set screws visible. I need to get back to building more of these. I have barrels, set triggers, most hardware, and wood for 3 more sets but the problem has always been getting the right locks. There are no commercially made flintlocks that are suitable.

dave

Did your brother pay for those, or were they a gift? If they were a gift, could I please get on the gift list?

 

[XVIIc Wheelock]

Magnificent!

 

[MSW]

wow.

just, wow