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Yes, a typical wall gun or fortress gun. They made them in pretty large calibers or bores too. .80 caliber on up to over 1.00 inch too. They had greater range over the regular guns thus they could keep the enemy further away.
The British would issue them to their artillery batteries as well as on their ships. Even the Americans used them in the Revolutionary war too.
The British would issue them to their artillery batteries as well as on their ships. Even the Americans used them in the Revolutionary war too.
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LOL I remember first seeing this photo a few years ago. The normal size Torador musket stocks were usually two pieces spliced together. But this one might be 3-4 pieces LOL Looks like it took the equivalent of an entire, small diameter tree to make the stock. LOL
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Here is a pic of my Indian Wall Gun. It may have been one used in Jaipur as one of their fortress defense guns. The Majaraja had budgeted and commissioned them at the time. This was in the late 1700’s to early 1800’s.
The smoothbore wall guns were still amazingly accurate though. Many of them could hit a man size target several hundred meters away. The rifled wall guns could push that range out even farther.
The smoothbore wall guns were still amazingly accurate though. Many of them could hit a man size target several hundred meters away. The rifled wall guns could push that range out even farther.
Not sure where you may live there Earl ... but we gotta go shootin'!
I’m way down here or over here in Texas.
I think that the wall guns were great for messing up formations of troops getting ready to attack. The guns forced their leader to be back around a thousand meters away when getting everyone ready for the attack. Massed troops make aiming easy you just aim at the troops massing out in the distance.
Here is a little more about wall guns;
https://www.guns.com/news/2013/01/30/the-wall-guns-some-epically-large-rifles
A good look at a Chinese Jingal:
https://www.forgottenweapons.com/rifles/chinese-jingal-wall-gun/
I think that the wall guns were great for messing up formations of troops getting ready to attack. The guns forced their leader to be back around a thousand meters away when getting everyone ready for the attack. Massed troops make aiming easy you just aim at the troops massing out in the distance.
Here is a little more about wall guns;
https://www.guns.com/news/2013/01/30/the-wall-guns-some-epically-large-rifles
A good look at a Chinese Jingal:
https://www.forgottenweapons.com/rifles/chinese-jingal-wall-gun/
I would assume an anti material role would be important too.
Large hook guns were a major feature of 16th and 17th century Central European fortifications, which would make sense to counter the offensive entrenching and fortifications that were the norm for sieges.
Large hook guns were a major feature of 16th and 17th century Central European fortifications, which would make sense to counter the offensive entrenching and fortifications that were the norm for sieges.
Originals of the infantry sized version are pretty common and usually reasonably priced, but if you want the bigger thing…
MASSIVE 1700s Antique TORADAR MATCHLOCK Smooth Bore .60 Caliber Musket Mughal Empire Indian with LONG 53-3/4 Barrel for sale
The lock size doesn’t really matter any. They used regular sized locks. But usually the locks were more like the ones used on Brown Bess muskets. Parts standardization of a sorts.
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Here's one from an auction earlier this year...
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/indian-18th-century-matchlock-wall-gun-toradar-1f046ada3b
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/indian-18th-century-matchlock-wall-gun-toradar-1f046ada3b
I only know if one source for wall gun parts. You have to buy the parts and put it together like it is a kit. I do have vague memory of d second source but it may be going back to the one source already mentioned above.
.80 caliber to 1.00 are more common, but there are some with larger bores too. But beyond a certain point they become small cannons. Or punt guns.
I have memories that there are some books. But not many books were made though. They are in chapters of some other books too.
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It’s a wall gun?????
Crap!!!!
I’ve been using mine on Quail and tree rats.
Hard to swing but can get my limit in one shot.
Crap!!!!
I’ve been using mine on Quail and tree rats.
Hard to swing but can get my limit in one shot.
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/87/3304/massive-matchlock-wall-gun
Any one have $10,000 to spend and a really cool/understanding significant other?
Any one have $10,000 to spend and a really cool/understanding significant other?
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