Now I will clean it.

[PathfinderNC]

Honestly guys I've lost count when I've come in all tired and simply plastered my lube on a couple of patches and run them down and out again. Then plastered around the breech. No rust for days.
It's not rocket science or magic.

But when you snuggle with them in bed don’t you get all gooey?

 

[Britsmoothy]

But when you snuggle with them in bed don’t you get all gooey?

Mrs goes mad about the black.
She said "it's me or the smoke pole...!"

Last I heard she is sleeping rough in Birmingham....

 

[ETipp]

Sounds like they used the wrong lubes!

Or didn’t clean and lube after they were finished.

 

[ETipp]

Honestly guys I've lost count when I've come in all tired and simply plastered my lube on a couple of patches and run them down and out again. Then plastered around the breech. No rust for days.
It's not rocket science or magic.

No offense to you whatsoever, Brit. I appreciate your input and I do find it interesting. I’ve also always liked your posts.

At least you did that much. No doubt that’s what saved your ML’s from rusting. With the proper amount of the proper type of lube I can see how it would help. I still don’t understand it and I’m not about to try it myself on my ML’s because knowing my luck, something would go wrong somewhere and I’d wind up with a rust bucket.

As it is now, I reckon I’ll keep on doing what I have been. I’m a chance taker but not on my ML’s rusting. I’ll just have to take your word on it.

 

[mushka]

I clean my guns shortly after use. Other people's guns rusting up isn't my problem.

 

[bud in pa]

My first flinter was a Pedersoli Kentucky 50 cal. I used Lehigh Valley Lube exclusively. I shot it during the early muzzleloader season and put it away and forgot to clean it. About a month later I took it out for squirrels, when you could still use a 50 for squirrels, and it fired first time . I remembered to clean it when I got home. found no rust. I understand that there is another lube similar To LVL. It worked for me.

 

[Robin101]

Brit, I'm intrigued by your lube recipe. I have a smoothbore with a pristine barrel I would like to try your method on. I don't mind cleaning my guns after some shooting and actually enjoy the process, but I would still like to try your method. Enjoy your hunts!!!!!
Robin

 

[Britsmoothy]

Brit, I'm intrigued by your lube recipe. I have a smoothbore with a pristine barrel I would like to try your method on. I don't mind cleaning my guns after some shooting and actually enjoy the process, but I would still like to try your method. Enjoy your hunts!!!!!
Robin

It's a beeswax and olive oil mix but over the years the tin has had beef fat added and now coconut fat.
Anything animal or vegetable can absorb the salts produced where as mineral oils separate away from salts.

 

[Britsmoothy]

Just done cleaning it, days after I said.
Clean and no rust. Nice smooth bore.

 

[Robin101]

Thanks Brit, I'll give it a go.
Robin

 

[WALT53]

Thanks Brit, I'll give it a go.
Robin

Nice shooting Nathan as always and am also a fan of small smoothbores .

 

[Frontstuffer070]

That looks like a nice pot of Dumplings in the making. Nice Work Sir!

 

[Trigger]

Honestly guys I've lost count when I've come in all tired and simply plastered my lube on a couple of patches and run them down and out again. Then plastered around the breech. No rust for days.
It's not rocket science or magic.

I don't use anything wet or an oil
My lube is a greasy mix of animal and vegetable fats.
The only time I use something wet is the boiled water to flush the barrel with.

At one time before learning more I didn't know what to use..

I used bore butter the whole gun barrel inside and out.. on a TC.. the patches come out a little dirty but it's not rust. you'll know when it's rust.

Anyway it had nothing for rust on the outside of it..

switched because of how many peeps said it's was bad stuff is all.. I went to oil and cleaning more.

In the shotgun anyway I might use it like that. Probably clean once a week.

Is there a difference in what you make or is it about the same?

 

[Banjoman]

I started using the ‘Britsmoothy method’ a while back and it works. Only difference is that I use rainwater instead of tap water.

 

[Britsmoothy]

At one time before learning more I didn't know what to use..

I used bore butter the whole gun barrel inside and out.. on a TC.. the patches come out a little dirty but it's not rust. you'll know when it's rust.

Anyway it had nothing for rust on the outside of it..

switched because of how many peeps said it's was bad stuff is all.. I went to oil and cleaning more.

In the shotgun anyway I might use it like that. Probably clean once a week.

Is there a difference in what you make or is it about the same?

I don't know what bore butter is made of. I used some wonderlube once but it's not as good as beeswax and olive oil. At the moment mine is mostly coconut fat melted in the same tin as the bees wax mix with olive oil.
It's not magic.
Just use an animal and or vegetable oil and fats. They can carry salts, that's what is produced upon burning black powder. They carry and isolate the salts from the reactive element iron.

I pondered how the frontiers men went on. Especially in winter.
All I could conclude to myself is that they had fire and animal fats.
They could use cold water in winter. The gun would freeze solid but they had hot water!

That's my take on it and it works, has done for decades.
Oh you'll get some waffle on about flash rust and it's gonna ruin something or the other but my guess is that they simply have something missing in their lives!

I once went to look at a double gun muzzleloader and I asked the chap what his cleaning regime was. He told me he used Hoppes #9 and flushed it out with WD-40!! I felt the blood drain from me and I braced myself.
Dropping a little light down the barrels confirmed my worst fears.
Ruined!

 

[Frontstuffer070]

I've always used the animal fat and beezwax. I smear a little on the barrel around the nipple, etc. Also, before I put my barrel in the stock I wipe on a coating of lube on the under side of the barrel. I've went a few days to a week without cleaning before with no I'll effects even in SC humidity. I'll just swab the barrel with a spit patch and a patch with moose milk before leaving the range.

 

[tenngun]

Just done cleaning it, days after I said.
Clean and no rust. Nice smooth bore.

Brit, no doubt a lot of old timers did it the same as you. And the very fact that you don’t have rust proves it works
Howsomever I’m OCD about cleaning
I’m sure if I tried your method I’d be tossing and turning in bed till I got up at 3am to clean my gun

 

[Spikebuck]

Brits, congrats on a nice bunch of squirrels.

Regarding your lube...does it only work with 4f pushing a handful of old mixed size airgun pellets or will it work as well with "normal" loads?!

Seriously...when it comes to blackpowder & hunting, you are a PROVEN master!

 

[Bigpete]

I don't know what bore butter is made of. I used some wonderlube once but it's not as good as beeswax and olive oil. At the moment mine is mostly coconut fat melted in the same tin as the bees wax mix with olive oil.
It's not magic.
Just use an animal and or vegetable oil and fats. They can carry salts, that's what is produced upon burning black powder. They carry and isolate the salts from the reactive element iron.

I pondered how the frontiers men went on. Especially in winter.
All I could conclude to myself is that they had fire and animal fats.
They could use cold water in winter. The gun would freeze solid but they had hot water!

That's my take on it and it works, has done for decades.
Oh you'll get some waffle on about flash rust and it's gonna ruin something or the other but my guess is that they simply have something missing in their lives!

I once went to look at a double gun muzzleloader and I asked the chap what his cleaning regime was. He told me he used Hoppes #9 and flushed it out with WD-40!! I felt the blood drain from me and I braced myself.
Dropping a little light down the barrels confirmed my worst fears.
Ruined!

I love how much stuff you stir lol. I remember doing the same on Facebook when I'd use wheel weights to cast round balls lol

 

[Britsmoothy]

Brit, no doubt a lot of old timers did it the same as you. And the very fact that you don’t have rust proves it works
Howsomever I’m OCD about cleaning
I’m sure if I tried your method I’d be tossing and turning in bed till I got up at 3am to clean my gun

I was the same....at first. Takes courage.