Need help finding hook tang for barrel

[JQuigley]

Hi,

I bought a barrel off a guy on here a while back and I haven’t been able to figure out a tang that’ll fit it. I’ve tried TC and investaarms tangs as well as an L&R but none fit. It’s a .54 unmarked 1 inch octagonal barrel. Original message said it was “Bought out Doc White of GRRW” if that helps. I’ve included pictures of the hook to try and get an answer from the guys who know it all on here. Any ideas? Thanks!

 

[rich pierce]

You need a tang from a “real” Hawken. A re-creation of a gun by J&S or Sam Hawken. What is the barrel size across the flats at the breech?

 

[JQuigley]

You need a tang from a “real” Hawken. A re-creation of a gun by J&S or Sam Hawken. What is the barrel size across the flats at the breech?

It should be an inch across the flats

 

[EndoftheLine]

Hi,

I bought a barrel off a guy on here a while back and I haven’t been able to figure out a tang that’ll fit it. I’ve tried TC and investaarms tangs as well as an L&R but none fit. It’s a .54 unmarked 1 inch octagonal barrel. Original message said it was “Bought out Doc White of GRRW” if that helps. I’ve included pictures of the hook to try and get an answer from the guys who know it all on here. Any ideas? Thanks!

It’s not L&R and it’s not Griffith (Hawken Shop). There are some on this forum who can trace the lineage of the GRRW Hawken through all the begats, so posting with a title like “Looking for Tang for GRRW Hawken” may get results.

 

[JQuigley]

It’s not L&R and it’s not Griffith (Hawken Shop). There are some on this forum who can trace the lineage of the GRRW Hawken through all the begats, so posting with a title like “Looking for Tang for GRRW Hawken” may get results.

I may have to try that. Thank you

 

[rich pierce]

Your best bet may be to re-breech it with a new setup unless you’re good at fabricating and modifying parts. New hooked breech and tang.

 

[JQuigley]

Your best bet may be to re-breech it with a new setup unless you’re good at fabricating and modifying parts. New hooked breech and tang.

I debated that but I can’t find anyone local who will even touch a muzzleloader. Even asked a few machinists who didn’t want to because of the “pressure produced”. Local smiths won’t touch it because muzzleloaders aren’t their forte.

 

[rich pierce]

Are you a man from down under? (Australia)

 

[JQuigley]

Are you a man from down under? (Australia)

Haha no no just fond of the quigley movie and the sharps rifle so it felt fitting. I’m in arizona.

 

[rich pierce]

Look up NMLRA clubs in AZ and contact club presidents. Surely someone could do it.

 

[JQuigley]

Look up NMLRA clubs in AZ and contact club presidents. Surely someone could do it.

Thank you I’ll have to try that out.

 

[SDSmlf]

I debated that but I can’t find anyone local who will even touch a muzzleloader. Even asked a few machinists who didn’t want to because of the “pressure produced”. Local smiths won’t touch it because muzzleloaders aren’t their forte.

Pull the existing breech plug and see what threads it has. There’s a chance you will have a thread that will match an available plug and tang.

 

[JQuigley]

Pull the existing breech plug and see what threads it has. There’s a chance you will have a thread that will match an available plug and tang.
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Plugs on there too good. I tried heating it even. Pulled my bench out of the wall trying to get it to budge

 

[SDSmlf]

Plugs on there too good. I tried heating it even. Pulled my bench out of the wall trying to get it to budge

Maybe time for a bigger bench….. could also rethink your angle of attack so you are pushing into the wall and floor, not pulling away.

 

[JQuigley]

Maybe time for a bigger bench….. could also rethink your angle of attack so you are pushing into the wall and floor, not pulling away.

Yeah that’s definitely on my list. I’m not a strong or heavy man so I don’t have a lot to put into a wrench but surely it’s definitely on there tight. I had all my weight on a wrench the other day trying to get it to budge to no avail. Maybe I’ll soak it in penetrating oil over night and try again

 

[SDSmlf]

Yeah that’s definitely on my list. I’m not a strong or heavy man so I don’t have a lot to put into a wrench but surely it’s definitely on there tight. I had all my weight on a wrench the other day trying to get it to budge to no avail. Maybe I’ll soak it in penetrating oil over night and try again

How long of a cheater bar were you using?

 

[JQuigley]

How long of a cheater bar were you using?

About three feet

 

[rich pierce]

Fitting a new breechplug is not trivial for everyone.

 

[JQuigley]

Fitting a new breechplug is not trivial for everyone.

I’ve done a handful in the past without issue but those were new barrels. Never had to pull a plug before.

 

[The Crisco Kid]

Where are you in Arizona?