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It finally showed up on the Netflix save list. Maybe it will be available soon for home viewing.
 
Loyalist Dave said:
Then those in contact with the Indians discovered the Indians adpoted some non-Indian captives into their families, and treated them as equals, some attaining rank among the population. This confused the stereotype, and further when at peace there was often hospitality from Indian to the Europeans that would not have been shown between differing European groups, nor from European toward Indian, in many cases. This caused more confusion. So the idea of the "noble savage", which was a sub-group thought to be among the vast group called "Indians" was thought up to explain away the confusion.


Not necessarily. I read something in the last couple years (Silver's Our Savage Neighbors?) that suggested that having a relative taken into captivity was harder than having them killed outright, and made things worse, not better. Having a child taken away from you and taught to hate you, your culture, and your religion was a lot harder on a parent than having a child killed outright, particularly when children often died young anyway and the parent could hope to see them in heaven. Add to that the issue of uncertainty - when someone was taken away, one usually never knew whether they were dead or alive, or how they died, and you can kind of see why in some ways it was the hardest thing to happen to those that were left behind.


Also, the "noble savage" myth had less to do than actual Indian behavior as it did European critiques of their own culture, and has roots as far back as Tacitus' Germania in the 1st century AD. Note that the people who bought most heavily into the idea were those that had little or no contact with actual Indians, and those that lived close to them tended to hate them with a passion.
 
Bill,
One of the T.V. stations down in Phoenix, this past week end, showed a short clip. The theme song is up for an Oscar I believe.
 
SligoBill said:
So has anyone seen this? any reviews?
Scene the previews theres a link was posted somewhere on this post. Movie looks good but we will see. Haven't scene the movie yet.
 
The trailer is so old I'm locked out of it. Does anyone remember what the NAME of this movie is?

I sure would appreciate it, I'm starved for some good F & I period movies to help beat the cold.

Many Thanks!
 
My parents lived in Middleburg just south of the Leroy Massacre location. I've always wondered about the historical marker placed there and look forward to seeing this movie.
 
The movie song has started a publicity generating controversy that should sell more tickets . The movie should bring more people into the sport, sell more smokepoles.
 
I seriously doubt that this movie will bring a lot more people into our sport. It was said that it would show here in February 2014 and I checked for it and it is now essentially postponed to June 13th 2014. What is going on???
It simply is not comparable to LOTM or the first hour of the Patriot when it comes to simple numbers of distribution.
In my opinion the christian focus of the movie will not appeal to a lot of viewers, but that is only me.
 
Not only you. It's designed to bring in converts, not ML shooters, as is clearly stated by the people producing it.

Spence
 
Spence, movies are made to bring in money...investor's (producer's) want a good return on the money they put up, period! None of the major motion pictures produced were made to bring in muzzleloader converts to our sport, it just worked out that way. Jeremiah Johnson would be a perfect example of this occurring in spades. Last of the Mohicans brought in more female converts to our sport as well, at least a better understanding of it for sure.

Let us not forget that this country was founded by very devout religious people, and this movie is only being historically accurate with it's religious overtone. What does it matter what the producer's intent is, as long as it is historically accurate, enjoyable to view, and highlights a time period we all seem to relish! :v
 
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