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Dutch, I'm currently using a 7 to 1 mix. Since the groups are still in the .8+ range I think I'll stay focused on the patch thickness for now. Once I've taken that as far as I can go then I'm going to look at an 8 to 1 mix and see what that does. One variable at a time.
 
I guess anyone can occasionally turn out an item that is less than their standard high quality. I've owned several TVM guns and had no imperfections on them that I could see. Although it may have taken a bit of load testing, every one turned out to be scary accurate. If it shoots with excellence, it's a keeper....you have a keeper, rdstrain49.
 
Agreed. Getting fewer and fewer shredded patches, accuracy keeps improving.
First outing to the 100 yard today. Results not spectacular but promising, roughly 4" groups with a couple different patch & ball combinations. Keeping in mind nearly 70 year old eyes and a 10 mph variable wind, I'm not all that unhappy with 4" groups.

I've already talked to TVM and am in the planning stages of my next rifle. This one will be a big bore. I am, however, doubtful that anything will replace the Cantankerous Old Witch or Ol COW.
 
RD,

I guess I am a bit confused as well as blind but are you saying you are getting a group that is eight tenths of an inch.
or is it a non group of 8 inches?
I was once approached by a subscriber who couldn't get a half inch group with a /58 caliber rifle which is greater than a half inch to start with.
I pointed out that you subtract half of the .58 caliber width from all sides of the group and work from that.


An eighth in groups would be hard to improve on/

Dutch
 
Dutch, groups are 8/10" center to center at 50 yards. Today I started working at 100 yards. Results were not good but not awful. Several groups of 4 inches at 100 yards. Perhaps as much as 2 inches can be attributed to a 10 mph and variable wind. It was a very tough wind to dope.
 
8/10ths of an inch at 50 yards is pretty darn good/
All other things being equal your group at 100 yards should open up to be twice as large.

RD,
On windy days, if there are brief lulls between gusts, shoot at the beginning of the lull.

Starting with a mallet might be causing some of you 100 yard problems.

I think you are doing just fine so early with a new rifle.

Dutch
 
8/10" is basically one hole. Any group of of around an inch at 50 yards is a serious bragging group; I honestly can't see a reason, or way, to beat that. At 100 yards 4" is about the best I can do now; and this is with any rifle I own. 4" at 100yds is a sure fire deer getter. I've only killed two at that distance with a couple of .50s; 75yds is my farthest deer kill with a .45. IMHO you're doing very fine shooting.
 
This afternoon I did what I tell everyone I am trying to help not to do. Since the best group I've been able to attain had been .888 inches at 50 yards, I started from scratch. I changes everything, all at once. New powder, patch, lube, and ball. I hope the pictures work. The top group is actually the second one fired, it measured .750" center to center. The bottom group measures .522" center to center.

I now officially have a new favorite rifle.
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNOii3Z-TiPrb9Zsk85-UrIBMYhviv6VWpUwlrT
 
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The last two worked for me.

Actually, the other "Google" links might have worked too but it wanted me to log into my Google Account.

It always irks me when a site wants me to log in just to see a picture. :(
 
rdstrain49 said:
This afternoon I did what I tell everyone I am trying to help not to do. Since the best group I've been able to attain had been .888 inches at 50 yards, I started from scratch. I changes everything, all at once. New powder, patch, lube, and ball. I hope the pictures work. The top group is actually the second one fired, it measured .750" center to center. The bottom group measures .522" center to center.

I now officially have a new favorite rifle.
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNOii3Z-TiPrb9Zsk85-UrIBMYhviv6VWpUwlrT[/quote]



If 3/4" is the best that old rifle will do, just send it to me and I'll git 'er shootin'. :blah: :rotf:
 
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Zonie, I agree, the only thing that irritates me more would be computers in general.

Hansi, better re-read the above. The top group is 3/4". The bottom group measures .522" center to center. I know it's only 50 yards, but that's just a tick over 1 MOA. I'll take it.

BTW I worked on the sights today and the sighting groups were still in the 1/2" to 3/4" range. I also switched over to Dutch's dry lube. Groups remained unchanged. I am one happy camper.
 
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