New Woodsrunner getting it dialed in 3f goex vs swiss

[rbeave]

Anyone else shoot goex or swiss 3f out of they're 50 cal woodsrunner that would have an idea on velocitys/powder charges? I don't have a chronograph and I'm curious. I'm working on a general purpose load for target and small/midsized game( a year round load outside of deer season)
What I've worked out so far is .018 pillow ticking patch with tow mink oil rubbed in the smooth side of patch. .490 hornady ball.
50 gr of 3f goex will stack shots at 25 yards benched. 45 gr of 3f swiss will shoot a 2" group at 50 yards leaning against a tree. Same poi for both loads good crack out of both also.

Looking to hear from other woodsrunner owners and what's working for them

 

[justinoldguy]

I do not own a Woodsrunner, but I have several rifles in .50 caliber. I shoot a lot over chronographs, literally many thousands of rounds in a wide variety of calibers, in both handguns and rifles. I could quote you actual chronograph data, but in a .50 cal, 60 grains of 3f is plenty for deer, and is usually quite accurate. In fact, I use 60 grains of 3F in every rifle I own with two exceptions (.40 cal flinter, and my Pedersoli .54 RMH), regardless of caliber. I don't know your barrel length, but generally 60 grains of Goex 3f and a .490 PRB will produce 1450 fps, while Swiss 3f is decidedly more energetic, and will give over 1700 fps with the same projectile. Either will do what you are seeking to accomplish. My numbers are based on actual chronograph data, not speculation. I use Swiss 3f exclusively in my rifles, as it is vastly superior to Goex, and for me worth the extra $12-$15 per lb. You can safely achieve over 2000 fps in a .50 cal using Swiss, but you asked specifically about a general purpose load. Rest assured that a .490 ball driven at 1400-1500 fps will quickly down the biggest buck that ever lived.

 

[rbeave]

I did not realize swiss is that much more potent than goex.. nearly 15%.. the woodsrunner has a 40" barrel

 

[justinoldguy]

I did not realize swiss is that much more potent than goex.. nearly 15%.. the woodsrunner has a 40" barrel

Goex is a very weak powder compared to everything else, except maybe the old Elephant Powder. I used Goex for years, as it was readily available, and considered the "standard". Here are real chrono results, in as close a comparison as I can do to your Woodsrunner.

.50 pedersoli Blue Ridge. 39" barrel, .015 patch, .490 rb

75 grain Swiss

1754
1696.
1722.
1769.
1768

90 grain Swiss 3f

1974
1999
1992

60 gr. Swiss 3f prb

1700
1678
1696


Goex 3f 90 gr. prb

1629
1687
1691

Goex 75 prb

1587
1554
1572

Goex 60 prb

1496
1512
1476

 

[rbeave]

Thankyou very much