Number 11 caps

[Taxidermydude69]

Yes I saw that too but the fact remains that I've never ever in the near 50 years of shooting heard of a nipple that accepted two sizes. Some might accept one or the other but not either, that's a matter of manufacturing. From factory anything below Dragoon and ROA in revolver and pistol unless special ordered are #10 and no amount of company verbage will change that. Whoever wrote the discription obviously got it wrong because you hold the proof. Measure a nipple that fits and will pop a cap and get a set for #11s from Track and be done with it. If it measures .544 then you need the ,319 cone. If it measures .525 you need .300 cone. Measurements are subject to around .002 deviation. M6 outside thread diameter measures .224-.234.

Do I measure over all length for this?

 

[Taxidermydude69]

Do I measure over all length for this?

Ok, I measured over all length and 5 came up.052 and 1 came up .053. These cMe from a friends 1858 pietta. Their not real tight but the do fit alot better and seem to stay on. So go with the 300 cone or the bigger one?

 

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Ok, I measured over all length and 5 came up.052 and 1 came up .053. These cMe from a friends 1858 pietta. Their not real tight but the do fit alot better and seem to stay on. So go with the 300 cone or the bigger one?

Overall length from bottom of nipple to top of nipple. If .544 it will be .319 cone length PIR-LI or PIR-LS. If .525 it will be the .300 cone, PIR-I or PIR-S

 

[Archer 756]

No just change the #10 nipples to a number 11 nipples' TOW has replacement

 

[Taxidermydude69]

No just change the #10 nipples to a number 11 nipples' TOW has replacement

They told me they had 3 different size number 11Nd to measure the ones that were in it but cant do that seeing how there were 2 diff sizes and 2 wouldn't event thread so was told to throw em away

 

[Taxidermydude69]

Overall length from bottom of nipple to top of nipple. If .544 it will be .319 cone length PIR-LI or PIR-LS. If .525 it will be the .300 cone, PIR-I or PIR-S

My friends that fit in my cylinder are .52 . Calipers don't ha e anything after the 2

 

[Archer 756]

TOW has nipples JUST FOR YOUR gun you must tell them what you have

 

[Taxidermydude69]

TOW has nipples JUST FOR YOUR gun you must tell them what you have

I did tell them. I looked on their site and they have several different sizes

 

[Taxidermydude69]

I did tell them. I looked on their site and they have several different sizes

Thinking this is the 1. Only measurement I can get close is overall length as I do not know how to measure for the others

 

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Thinking this is the 1. Only measurement I can get close is overall length as I do not know how to measure for the others

If that is what a nipple that screws in and tightened up and pops a cap then that's it. Stop worrying about the ones that don't screw in, they're useless for you revolver.
Cone length is = overall length - thread journal length.
Given the thread journal length is the same all you need to know is overall length. Your good nipple that threads in properly is going to be .525 or .544 overall length. Look back at my post where I gave you all the measurements. Thread journal on all 3 I listed is .225.
so a .544 overall length - .225 = a .319 cone length.
a .525 overall - .225 = a .300 cone length.
Ddon't get frustrated. It just a matter of the numbers.

 

[Taxidermydude69]

.525 is the closest over all. I had

If that is what a nipple that screws in and tightened up and pops a cap then that's it. Stop worrying about the ones that don't screw in, they're useless for you revolver.
Cone length is = overall length - thread journal length.
Given the thread journal length is the same all you need to know is overall length. Your good nipple that threads in properly is going to be .525 or .544 overall length. Look back at my post where I gave you all the measurements. Thread journal on all 3 I listed is .225.
so a .544 overall length - .225 = a .319 cone length.
a .525 overall - .225 = a .300 cone length.
Ddon't get frustrated. It just a matter of the numbers.

This is a nipple from my friends pietta 1858 as I do not know the year make of his. Number 11 fits on it but some what loose but not as bad as the other ones that are replacements. It threaded into my cylinder but if I had 1 just a little bigger cone size it would fit the cap better

 

[Taxidermydude69]

It was .520 that I measured. Maybe my calipers don't get the 5 on the end

 

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It was .520 that I measured. Maybe my calipers don't get the 5 on the end

Calipers might be off a tad plus you have to take in account machining tolerances. Mine measured .5425 but it's .544 as far as the measurement. The nipples you are looking at on Track are dedicated to #11s.
If I thought I might have issues and mine used the ,300 cone I would get the ,319s and custom fit them myself. But as I said, I've never got anything from Track that didn't work. The main thing is you know what you need by the numbers.

 

[Taxidermydude69]

Calipers might be off a tad plus you have to take in account machining tolerances. Mine measured .5425 but it's .544 as far as the measurement. The nipples you are looking at on Track are dedicated to #11s.
If I thought I might have issues and mine used the ,300 cone I would get the ,319s and custom fit them myself. But as I said, I've never got anything from Track that didn't work. The main thing is you know what you need by the numbers.

I did measure something that was 3oo on the cone. But over all was .520. So I just tell them my over all measurement and cone?

 

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I did measure something that was 3oo on the cone. But over all was .520. So I just tell them my over all measurement and cone?

With these particular nipples it just happens that the overall measurement tells the ones you need. The 525 is the 300 cone and the 544 is the 319 cone. You measured 520 and figuring tolerances of calipers and part it's a 525. Just to feel safe you might measure a known thickness like a feeler gauge to check you calipers. Then you'll know the variation. If you measure an .040 feeler gauge and get .038 then add .002 to any measurement.

 

[Archer 756]

Question do you zero out your calibers before using

 

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Every time and recheck it and remeasure to be sure. I even use more tan one to make sure I get matching numbers within reason of .001

 

[Taxidermydude69]

Question do you zero out your calibers before using

This is a cheap 10$ pair. Never needed any until now

 

[Taxidermydude69]

With these particular nipples it just happens that the overall measurement tells the ones you need. The 525 is the 300 cone and the 544 is the 319 cone. You measured 520 and figuring tolerances of calipers and part it's a 525. Just to feel safe you might measure a known thickness like a feeler gauge to check you calipers. Then you'll know the variation. If you measure an .040 feeler gauge and get .038 then add .002 to any measurement.

I'd say it's the 300 co e I need after measuring total length. So how are you measuring the cone? You are talking about the part the nipple goes on? Forgive me if it sounds stupid but as you can tell I'm new to percusion

 

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No problem

I'd say it's the 300 co e I need after measuring total length. So how are you measuring the cone? You are talking about the part the nipple goes on? Forgive me if it sounds stupid but as you can tell I'm new to percusion

. Measure the entire length. Measure the length of the threaded area, the thread journal. Subtract the thread journal from the entire length and that number will be the cone length