Nylon brush broke off. Help

[lastivoryhunter]

Got back from a nice range session usually finish cleaning process with a dry patch over a nylon brush. Today it broke off all the way down. It is a Green Mountain. 54 barrel. Have tried C02 which didn't work could use some ideas but it may come down to pulling breech plug which I have never done before.

Thanks

 

[The Crisco Kid]

Flint or percussion?

 

[hawkeye2]

Do not pull the breech plug. Often you can run a smaller caliber bronze brush down there and grab the stuck brush. Never use a brush where the wire is swaged into the screwed end, alwayse use those where the wire is run through the end.

 

[lastivoryhunter]

It is a flintlock fullstock.

 

[EC121]

The crimped brushes are meant to be pushed and, unless way under bore size, never pulled. Mostly for open breeched guns.

 

[Art Caputo]

Not sure if this will work in your case but…….I got a bronze brush stuck years ago in my 54cal. Depends on how much of the brush/stem is exposed but I once got the brush out by screwing a brass, rifle casing(45-70 with the rim filed off) onto a screw type ball puller. The smaller diameter case was used as a cup/sleeve to push over the brush…very tightly. Attached the ball puller to my cleaning rod, carefully squeezing the brass case over the stem/brush, squirted some lube down the barrel, then pulled out the brush that was jammed into the rifle case.
Went this route because I couldn’t get my (seized?) breach plug off the barrel….

 

[LME]

Got back from a nice range session usually finish cleaning process with a dry patch over a nylon brush. Today it broke off all the way down. It is a Green Mountain. 54 barrel. Have tried C02 which didn't work could use some ideas but it may come down to pulling breech plug which I have never done before.

Thanks

Do you have a coil jag? It can remove the nylon brush but use a chemical to eat the patch material and the nylon brush material , It may help!

 

[mrd]

You might try a ball puller to grab the end, or the bristles and then add some liquid to help it to slide before pulling.

 

[andy52]

A patch worm might grip the bristles.

 

[Trev]

I think a piece if copper/aluminum/other tubing that just fits in the bore can be run down over the brush, folding the bristles down as it goes and capture the brush, similar to Art Caputo's empty casing. It's a thing that I read long ago somewhere, but I haven't had a stuck brush to try it. The key would be in taking away all brush to bore contact. If the patch stays in the bore it can be gotten with worm or screw.

 

[Rum River]

Years ago I stuck a bronze brush at the bottom of a 50 caliber.
Please don't waste my time telling me how stupid I was - I already know.

Anyhow - I shot it out.

It's my suggestion to get your vent pick and work in maybe 10 grs. of 4Fg through the touch hole, prime the pan and let fly. What have you got to lose? The reason I suggest 10 grs. is cuz' I tried first with 5 grs. but the pressure was so low it just percolated through the bristles and did nothing.

Good Luck!

 

[2 shots]

one large no butter please

 

[Valkyrie]

Easy.

My brother got one stuck in his Lyman with the patented breech that is smaller than the bore.

Cut of an empty rifle case. I think it was a .223 but doesn’t matter as long as it fits and screwed a ramrod into the primer pocket. Drove the empty case down over the brush and slid it all right out.

It’s nylon so you can always dissolve it in acetone too.

 

[Tumbledown]

I think a piece if copper/aluminum/other tubing that just fits in the bore can be run down over the brush, folding the bristles down as it goes and capture the brush, similar to Art Caputo's empty casing. It's a thing that I read long ago somewhere, but I haven't had a stuck brush to try it. The key would be in taking away all brush to bore contact. If the patch stays in the bore it can be gotten with worm or screw.

This. It is the fastest and simplest method. And I *have* had a stuck brush, at the bottom of a .62 smoothbore. Hardest part was finding adequate tubing. Spent over an hour finding and modifying something to fit down the barrel, but once done, it took all of 30 seconds to get the brush out.

 

[rbeave]

Just happened to me two days ago with a nylon brush in one of my flintlocks. I tried the patch worm and ball puller.. without success... I then poured powder down the barrel and touched it off twice with out anything in the barrel except the powder and broken off brush. It didn't shoot out. I tried patch worm got a little movement them jammed the ball puller down in there and it grabbed and come out. Firing off the powder burned up the brush and made it loose enough to pull out

 

[Tom A Hawk]

Years ago I stuck a bronze brush at the bottom of a 50 caliber.
Please don't waste my time telling me how stupid I was - I already know.

Anyhow - I shot it out.

It's my suggestion to get your vent pick and work in maybe 10 grs. of 4Fg through the touch hole, prime the pan and let fly. What have you got to lose? The reason I suggest 10 grs. is cuz' I tried first with 5 grs. but the pressure was so low it just percolated through the bristles and did nothing.

Good Luck!

I would add to that suggestion to ball up a paper towel and seat that over the brush to act as a gas seal.

 

[oldwood]

All written above is great info , but there is a R/R tip , with a regular heavy duty cork screw in 8-32 tpi , or 10 -32 tpi . This rig is a must for removing any shot gun wads. Shot gun shooters NEVER dry ball a shotgun , so the m/l gun part catalogs are over run with these heavy duty cork screws. That heavy duty cork screw will pull bronze and nylon brushes , as well as wads. LOL

 

[lastivoryhunter]

Thanks everyone no luck so far I am going to try the shooting it out method in the morning. I am getting frustrated with it and knowing myself at this point will do something even dumber than the first.

 

[Trev]

I think 3/8" copper pipe is .50" OD, it's what I'd look at first, and it should work in the .62 also

 

[Tom A Hawk]

I think 3/8" copper pipe is .50" OD, it's what I'd look at first, and it should work in the .62 also

I like that idea also. So long as the stem of the brush is able to go inside the pipe.