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Spence10 said:
Kansas Jake said:
Spence thanks for posting the pictures and BTW, you have been wearing sandals again. :grin:
rawhide has cute feet, doesn't he? :haha:

Spence


looks like he needs a good Baptist foot-washin'. :wink:
 
jackley said:
Track of the wolf sells a kit of the spout. They call it an English military style powder horn valve used during the Rev. War, and perhaps as early as the F&I War. 1757 through 1763.

Jerry

Here 'tis I think. It appears to have lots of points in common, but there are differences.

Don't know enough to say this, but I'm gonna venture it anyway: The differences in Rawhide's version sure make me think it might be an original version.
 
BrownBear said:
The differences in Rawhide's version sure make me think it might be an original version.
What concerns me is the presence of a coil spring in Rawhide's version instead of a leaf spring. Suggests to me that Rawhide's is more modern in design.
 
A quick look thru in Ray Riling's book THE POWDER FLASK BOOK shows a number of valves that use a lever which operates a sliding gate which passes across the outlet.

These were used for both powder and shot flasks.

Some of them only have a gate near the outlet while some of them have two gates with one gate close to the flask and one gate near the outlet.

Normally, this style holds the outlet gate closed and while it is in this position, the rear gate closest to the flask is open.

When the lever is depressed, this style "cuts off" the feed from the flask by moving the rear gate across the supply from the flask while the front gate is opening the outlet.

The earliest date I see in the book for these is around 1850 but of course, the book can't cover all of the Patents so it may have been an earlier design.
 
I think the safest thing that can be said about the use of "priming horns" is, we don't know for sure if they were used by anyone to prime their flintlocks.

I know you weren't asking about this but, back in the days of the matchlock there were special little flasks carried to prime the guns.

In those days, the black powder was more than a little crude often being more like small chunks of various sizes.
By grinding up some of this irregular powder it made pretty good powder to prime with so the little flasks or bottles served a good purpose.

Getting back to the little "powder horns" that have been found, some of them seem to have been used to hold salt and pepper. :hmm:
 
rawhide said:
So has any one seen a valve like this before?
This type of valve was pretty common in the 17th century as part of the gear of matchlock shooters, on their maain powder flassk.

Spence
 
I have seen horns with spouts like that, as a matter of fact I have several horns with similar spouts. They have been called priming horns but that refers to some Rev War Artillery horns that were used to prime cannons. I like them because I don't always remember to put the plug back in the tip of the horn.
 
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