Official Standard Antique M/L Barrel Length

[lmucheer]

For anyone interested and missed reading this information in my previous post, there is a Standard measurement for M/L barrels.I received the information from a gentleman in the UK who is well known as an expert in this field. The standard is as follows:

British Antique Muzzleloading guns and rifle standard practice is to measure from the face of the muzzle to the rear face of the breech (excluding the tang). This gives the measure offically recognised ever since records began and used offically in government specifacations and the gun trade. Hence the Pattern 1853 rifle is defined as 39 inches by this measure as is the short rifle at 33 inches etc. etc.

Your double barrel percussion muzzleloader gun should ,therefore, be defined as having a barrel measured between these points. This is the accepted auction catalogue method also.

Elizabeth

 

[robinghewitt]

Call me Mr Picky but in UK law when you measure the barrel of a shotgun, defined as not less than 24", you measure from muzzle to point of ignition, which is either the cap or the touch hole for a muzzle loader :thumbsup:

 

[lmucheer]

Hi Robin,

OK Mr Picky, We both know that whatever you tell me has to be explained in the most simple terms possible. Now correct me if I'm wrong but what I believe you said was to measure the barrels from the tip of the bores all the way up to the nipples at the trigger. Is this right ? I'm not dragging that big old gun out until I hear from you or someone that knows exactly what you are talking about.I'm sure you know exactly who gave me that information so maybe you guys need to talk and compare notes.Could be I missed something in translation although I did try to copy word for word what he wrote.

Good to hear from you. I hope all is well with you and yours. Strange coincidence, last night I was browsing gun sites in Austrailia guess what was there ? Right it was the video of you shooting your wall gun ( I think that's what it's called ).

Best Wishes,

Elizabeth

 

ya know what guy's?

If ya take your british measure, and/or your australinian measure,, and put them both alongside an old style bedford county pennsylvannia, you'll both be wrong

 

[lmucheer]

3times,

I'm so used to being wrong, that it almost feels right to be wrong.

Elizabeth

 

aw heck,,i'm sorry didn't mean it like that
But them UK guy's are so stuck sumtimes on the old collecters because of their laws,,they sometymes have forgotten,,
,,there's a whole new world.

 

[lmucheer]

3times,

No apology necessary,I have been researching this gun for the past three months and the only thing I know for sure is that I know nothing for sure. Seems like every time I THINK I have an answer to my question, that answer causes another question.Don't get me wrong I really appreciate everyones kind help and have talked to some wonderful,intellegent, interesting people along the way. And would KNOW NOTHING without them , but " WOW " this is way more complicated than I ever imagined it would be. But I will say that I have enjoyed it , certainly never been bored , and it has been well worth my time. I would also like to thank everyone who has been kind enough to spend their time helping me.

Best Wishes,

Elizabeth