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A friend found this old knife in a antique shop? We are not sure just how old it could be? Any help would be great..I hope I posted this in the correct place? No markings on it? Looks to be home made, it is a lock blade!
 
A friend of mine found one just like that in the back seat of an Orlando taxi cab. It had French markings of a company that dated back into the 19th c., but this knife did not seem that old.
 
Oh boy, that's a tall order. Carl P. Russell loved that style and says it dates back to colonial times and they were all over the place and then he sort of fades out on the documentation. The Kalamazoo MI public library now has the blades shown in his book that were dug up at Ft. St. Joseph. No springs were recovered and what is shown could just as easily been standard friction folder blades. Russell has the Pawnee site in Kansas but same deal- no spring recovered- it was Russell that said it was a locking blade not Smith who actually dug up the blade. The Museum at Ticonderoga- nothing with the dorsal type springs, so...I'm not really sure about their use in North America (Spain- yes, North America ??). On the oldest styles, the dorsal spring was often attached with a screw and the end of the spring was bent at a right angle and stuck in the handle. The blade also had a straight spine (no notch) and the locking prong stuck up from the spine. The bent wings with pin are later (to the best of my knowledge). What you show- the style definately dates to at least 1920. There is a similar style dating to around 1860-1870 that was found in North Carolina but the handle has multiple balls at the tip. There is a mountain man trade list that has "Spanish Lock Knives"- if I recall maybe 1834 give a year or two. BTW the term "Spanish Lock Knife" implies a dorsal spring- the style was made in Spain, France, and England.
So as others have said- maybe a replica that just got rusty or MAYBE older. Pretty hard to tell. If there are any markings- that would be a big help.
 
This style of knife is more commonly associated with the French/Spanish border region. I have an almost identical one which is stamped "23 Couvreux" on the blade and was made by Couvreux de Razout in the French knifemaking centre around Thiers, just before the First War (the mark was registered in 1910). My knife is usually thought of (by dealers and collectors) as a type carried by French soldiers in the trenches. So your knife is definitely later than the period covered in this forum, but a nice historical (and uncommon) piece in itself, assuming it is not a reproduction....

For more info about knives from this period/region, and if you can decipher French, I recommend this site: http://www.couteaux-jfl.com/bienvenue.htm
 
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Reminds me of an old sailors knife,but the ones i am thinking of had more blades.
 
french pattern for sure. Napoleon use to give a similar knife to his most loyal officers. These knives did however have a bee motif on the end of the handle.
 
Well my first thoughts after the pic was lightened is it looks old or someone has went to lengths to age it.
You can buy these today. Of course they are replicas.
For the life of me I can't remember right off the top of my head where I say them for sale. If I can find the site I will post it!

So if you want to take some more pics it might help to tell you more!

EDIT:
Here is a Chinese version,
http://www.yknife.com/2106-2638-ring-pull-locking-pocket-knife-big-size.html

however this is not the one I was thinking of. The one I am thinking of is a modern version of the origional!
 
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I think these are what you are thinking of.

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Made in South Africa now. Was made in Germany since early 1900's, 1055 Carbon steel blade.

wiki about OKAPI Knives

I got mine for a buck a a estate sale.
 
I have a modern made copy made by Idaho Knife works. It's a very old style that they call a "French Trappers knife"
 
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