One of my favorite photos

[oncewas]

I'm not going to nit-pic with you. I am sure soldiers and Rangers shot their enemy's horses. They were after all a much bigger target making them much easier to hit. But that is not why the Walkers and Dragoons were called Horse Pistols. It was because of the size and weight of said pistols.

So I guess we can agree in part, at least to men in armed conflict shooting their enemy's horses.

 

[jimhallam]

Now this is what I call a well armed soldier. Nothing like having three shooters at hand. Hmm? Calvary trooper?

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Credit: Library of Congress/Wikimedia Commons

A very high proportion of these CDV pix were "studio-based" and the studio provided the props.

 

[jimhallam]

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I think probably the charge of the Light Brigade was one of the last uses of horse charges.

Sadly you are 70 years out... ...
I was born in a village called (South) FAWLEY in what was Berkshire (now Oxfordshire), England. Fawley Manor in North Fawley still has English Civil War cannon balls in the walls. My mother was a parlourmaid in Fawley Manor and joined the Army Territorial Service well before WW2 and ended her war service as a Company Serjeant Major.
South Fawley appears as "Marygreen" in Thomas Hardy's novel "Jude the Obscure" -- his name being "Jude Fawley" and the village church is St Mary's. In that church is a memorial to Philip Musgrave Neeld WROUGHTON, Major in the Berkshire Yeomanry, killed in a cavalry charge on 19 April 1917 in Gaza. His father owned Fawley Manor.

Years ago I was able to acquire a cased double "Rook and Rabbit Rifle" which belonged to Major Wroughton. It was sold by Venables of Oxford probably in about 1880 to his father Philip Wroughton, M.P. 1846-1910, the case being "named" in the traditional way. It is in .380Long (sorry that it is an "unmentionable") -- and was probably used to shoot small deer -- i.e., a "Park Rifle" - so I hope that it will be able to be passed down the family -- - although the antis in the UK are working hard to destroy our heritage in that respect.

 

[toot]

Oh you'll like this one. There are over 17000 photo in the Library of Congress of the Civil War ear. A lot of the soldiers are sporting weapons many have both pistols and rifles. Are they props? I seriously doubt it. But I wasn't there to confirm that.

it looks like he brought a sword to a gun fight!?

 

[toot]

I've put him the right way around - look at the buttons, and tweaked the image somewhat.

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Even our original overweight friend benefits from a bit of lateral inversion - putting the nipple access cutout on the correct side of the frame -

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Again, the buttons are the giveaway. Also, look for the US or CSA on the belt buckles...

WOW!! not that is over kill!! a lot of fire power!. and if all else fails he has his trusty sword!!. BE PREPAIRED!! are they COLT'S or REMINGTONS?

 

[toot]

I agree that the term "Horse pistol" applied to earlier single shot ML types, all the way back to the 17th century when Wheelocks were holstered on Saddles.

But my research over time also confirmed that in the 19th century the term "Horse pistol" was used especially for the heavy calibre Walker and later Dragoon Colts that were specifically intended to drop a Horse (thereby disabling its rider) in combat.

First hand accounts even before the War between the States (in particular Texas) describe commanders ordering their troops to "shoot the Horses" (enemy) and similar accounts exist in the 1860-65 War.

My apologies if I seem obsessive, but I'm a military history nut; one would think I'd be over it all after 37 years Army service but there it is.

isn't a BRACE, 2 or more?

 

[Grenadier1758]

WOW!! not that is over kill!! a lot of fire power!. and if all else fails he has his trusty sword!!. BE PREPAIRED!! are they COLT'S or REMINGTONS?

Toot, we've been over this before. Those three revolvers all have top straps. During the Civil War, no Colt percussion pistols have top straps. The three pistols in the picture are Remington revolvers.

 

[TFoley]

isn't a BRACE, 2 or more?

Here in UK a brace is two. Where YOU live, who knows?

 

[TFoley]

Toot, we've been over this before. Those three revolvers all have top straps. During the Civil War, no Colt percussion pistols have top straps. The three pistols in the picture are Remington revolvers.

As I posited back in post #57..............................................................................

 

[Grenadier1758]

And many others have made the observation that these are Remington revolvers.

 

[FishDFly]

 

[Coinneach]

isn't a BRACE, 2 or more?

A Brace when describing Pistols has usually meant a Pair, as in Two of them.

 

[Coinneach]

Toot, we've been over this before. Those three revolvers all have top straps. During the Civil War, no Colt percussion pistols have top straps. The three pistols in the picture are Remington revolvers.

Or maybe Uberti / Pieta reproductions.......

 

[Grenadier1758]

True, @Coinneach, but definitely not Uberti/Pietta/ASM/Taylor's Colt's replicas. Of course, at the time the picture was taken there were patent infringement revolvers, but not replicas.

 

[Coinneach]

Toot, we've been over this before. Those three revolvers all have top straps. During the Civil War, no Colt percussion pistols have top straps. The three pistols in the picture are Remington revolvers.

I think our brother Toot has special needs, so should be embraced and included as "one of the family"; after all we're all special needs chillrun on this forum of Muzzle Loading dinosaurs.

 

[Coinneach]

True, @Coinneach, but definitely not Uberti/Pietta/ASM/Taylor's Colt's replicas. Of course, at the time the picture was taken there were patent infringement revolvers, but not replicas.

But but, if they could of had them.........

 

[Coinneach]

GOD I LOVE THIS MUZZLE LOADER FORUM.

 

[TFoley]

GOD I LOVE THIS MUZZLE LOADER FORUM.

I'm sure you already know that of the ten most venomous creatures on the planet, all ten live in or around the shores of Australia. And that language mavens, world-wide, agree that any of the Aboriginal languages - all 300+ of them - are older than any other language group on Earth, due to the 50 million-year isolation of the Australian mainland from the rest of SE Asia. How the original population got to Australia is yet another mystery, as it has been separated by deep waters for at least the last 50,000 years.

Figures courtesy of Bill Bryson, late of Des Moines ID.

 

[Colonial Boy]

The last cavalry charge was at Schoenfeld by Polish cavalry against German troops on 1st March 1945.
The last charge by US cavalry, on horseback, was against the Japanese in the Philippines in 1942 (plenty on Google).

 

[jimhallam]

The last cavalry charge was at Schoenfeld by Polish cavalry against German troops on 1st March 1945.
The last charge by US cavalry, on horseback, was against the Japanese in the Philippines in 1942 (plenty on Google).

Amusing that there are STILL Regiments referred to as "cavalry" in the British Army --- charging in Armoured Vehicles ;-)