Pa hunters, do you wear camo during the intlock season

[Stone]

Yes, but muzzleloader and rifle seasons run at the same time.

So do bow and muzzle loader and rifle here in Ohio. But I think most bow hunters are smart enough to wear orange if they are hunting in a gun season.

 

[user 36911]

They aren't here.

 

[user 36911]

It looks like it's going to change for the bow hunters. They'll be mad.

https://www.gohunt.com/content/news/colorado-might-require-fluorescent-orange-for-bowhunters-during-

 

[Tom A Hawk]

Yeah, I'm not blaming the victim. I'll also not assume someone wearing camo does so to be cool. The guy who shot was wrong. This statement above is akin to saying, if I left my keys in the truck and someone steals it, I've ruined their life. The shooter made the wrong decision and took a wrong action.

We have never understood how a man can be mistaken for a deer by an experienced, intelligent hunter as the two look nothing alike. A good hunter understands the importance of shot placement. To execute a precision shot placement one needs a clear target picture on the game.

 

[Stone]

We have never understood how a man can be mistaken for a deer by an experienced, intelligent hunter as the two look nothing alike. A good hunter understands the importance of shot placement. To execute a precision shot placement one needs a clear target picture on the game.

That is absolute fact! The problem is the woods are full of bad hunters.

When I "know" "without question" that I am the only person who can be in tge woods I am hunting, I will wear whatever the weather calls for.

Otherwise, i wear orange.

 

[Sidney Smith]

It's not illegal to double load your gun?

It's not illegal to go out in sub zero weather naked?

I dont think it's illegal to jump off a building?

It's not illegal to do a lot of foolish things.

Please explain the virtues of refusing to wear orange?

Legal should not be the deciding factor.

Because it's my choice, plain and simple. No different than someone riding a motorcycle without a helmet. If it's legal and they choose to do it, then whats the problem?

 

[Stone]

 

[Doughty]

I wear orange and camo at the same time. I wear orange primarily because the state says I have to. I would wear it sometimes even if it wasn't legally required. In genral though the color just grates on me. I wear camo because it is pretty difficult to get some of the new high tech clothes in anything but camo. I have a pair of King Camo pants that are light weight, warm and completely dry. What's not to like? At the time I bought them they only came in camo. If the weather is good I don't wear them.
There is NO justification for shooting at movement in a hunting situation. None.

 

[Stone]

Agreed! But it happens.

 

[3Setters]

If you arent in orange, wave so I can see you when I get within 100 yards. I dont want there to be a hunting accident we'll both regret.

 

[good ole boy]

I never intended to sound like I was placin blame on the Archer,I wasn,t.I was just statin about an incident that happened in an area where both parties never believed they would run into another hunter.Shootin any weapon at movement and not positively I.D.ing your target is gross negligence and cannot be tolerated.What the Archer was or wasn,t wearin is no excuse for him bein shot at,period.

 

[arkrivco]

The way that Colorado runs their big game seasons in completely insane. To put muzzleloader season smack dab in the middle of archery season is crazy. That archers need to wear orange is crazy. Separate the seasons! I have lived in Colorado since 1982 and quit hunting the muzzleloader season because of what we are discussing here. I do hunt the plains muzzleloader season as hunting east of I 25 is a totally different ballgame. Out east CPW has separated the seasons. Why they haven't done that in the mountains seasons is because they are greedy and are trying to make as much income as possible.

 

[user 36911]

Colorado put the muzzleloader season in mid sept so it could be during the rut. It's supposed to be a primitive weapon like a bow but inlines ruined that idea. The DOW thinks the primitive weapons deserve the advantage of hunting during the rut.

I always pushed them to have a primitive muzzleloader season during the rut and put the modern muzzleloaders with the rifle seasons. It fell on deaf ears because they think the season is primitive now. What? It sure isn't primitive to me.

 

[hinamanra]

I place the blame on the shooter, once you squeeze the trigger there's no getting the bullet back so you make dang sure you are 100% sure where the bullet impacts. The primary reason I hunt from a treestand or elevated position on the ground is because I'm shooting at the ground and I have enough sense to not be that guy.

 

[Sixgun_Symphony]

It looks like it's going to change for the bow hunters. They'll be mad.

https://www.gohunt.com/content/news/colorado-might-require-fluorescent-orange-for-bowhunters-during-

The only hunters that need camouflage are guys hunting ducks and turkeys as birds have very keen color vision.

Deer and other herbivore mammals are mostly color blind. They can see blue, but they can not tell red from green. The red plaid hunting outfits act like camouflage to deer because they can't see red and the plaid pattern breaks up the human outline. Anyone with normal human color vision can see red, so the red plaid is good for safety.

That said, I am sure that orange camouflage will be a thing for bow hunters. That too is effective camouflage for deer and other mammal prey species while being visible to humans.

 

[Sixgun_Symphony]

This is effective camouflage for deer as they do not see orange. It breaks up the human outline while making one visible to other humans.

 

[user 36911]

You want camo for deer. Wear buckskins. What can be better than wearing their skin.

I've said that for years as a joke but it's true too.

The problem is too many dumb hunters that would shoot you because you look like a deer. To them anyway.

I never understood shooting at movement in the brush. It's clear they aren't aiming for the kill zone if they shoot when they can't tell the difference between human and animal. They should be charged with manslaughter.

 

[user 36911]

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This is effective camouflage for deer as they do not see orange. It breaks up the human outline while making one visible to other humans.

Exactly. I tried to explain that to the DOW and it fell again on deaf ears. No camo blaze orange in Colorado. Animals can't see the color but they see the same color in a big area. Un-natural in nature.

 

[Howard Pippin]

I am all for wearing blaze orange during firearms season, be it public or private land. I also think that wearing camo during firearms season is irresponsible. But I do not believe in mandating orange to be worn. I think that the slob hunters will be of the mindset that - I see movement, I don't see orange, therefore it must be a deer and it is ok to shoot

Many states are now like Montana where during any rifle season for big game you have to wear 400 in.² above the waist that is connected. You can wear more, that is the minimum. I've been involved with Hunter safety for 55 years, and from Record-keeping, that was the biggest protector of hunters than anything else that we could do. Originally when I started bow hunting, you had to wear a red something while hunting. I don't know when that was changed, probably in the early 70s.
Montana requires anyone using archery to hunt on an overlapping season must wear hunters orange during that time that people can rifle hunt, We (Mainly instructors), tried to get Hunter safety above the waist as a requirement to hunting upland birds, but there was public opposition against it so it didn't happen. I do know of pheasant hunters that were wearing brown jackets that were shot by deer hunters. Sure that Hunter didn't identify his target but is a small consolation to that one that is dead. The only time that we believe it was fine to not use Hunter Orange was when you were hunting out of a pit for geese. I even carry a Hunter's orange vest to put on if I have car trouble at night. I'm not trying to hide on people, I want them to see me. We still have those hunters that show up here, mainly from out-of-state, that seemed to believe That true hunters wear full camouflage, pants, jackets, caps and sometimes coveralls. They are well enough read, that the ones I've seen out hunting, do put on Hunter orange vests.
Squint

 

[user 36911]

What sort of changes does a hunter get for shooting another hunter because they thought it was an animal? Hunters are still shot and killed while wear blaze orange. It's less than when it wasn't worn but killing didn't stop. So, what happens to the hunters who killed another hunter?

Maybe the penalty isn't severe enough.