PA Pellet Flintlock

[jgray]

Does anyone have a Traditions Pennsylvania Rifle? I just purchased one, and the trigger pull seems to be extremely heavy. Has anyone else had this problem? Is the trigger adjustable?

I bought this rifle for my daughter and I think the trigger pull will be a serious problem.

 

I checked Traditions' web site, and yore rifle has "double set" triggers. This means thet you will have to pull the "rear" trigger in order to "set" the front trigger.

I'm not familiar with "Traditions' rifles", but I'm guess'n ther is an "adjustment" screw located between the two triggers thet allows you to adjust the "poundage" of the front trigger for fire'n.

Most front triggers can be adjusted without actually "cocking" the hammer, simply by re-set'n the rear trigger before you pull the front one, and turn'n the liddle screw (in or out),.... turn'n the screw "in" reduces poundage of the front trigger pull .

I hope this made sense!!

YMHS
rollingb

 

[AgesofDays]

yes there is a set screw on the lock take the lock off and you will see a set screw there to adjust it....but be carful that will make it extremely sencitive so much that it scared me so i put it back to where it was.... rollinblock there is only one trigger on this gun

 

[OLDFLINT]

I have one,and it is sweet shooting for the bucks.
As far as adjusting the trigger,mine was adjusted exactly as I like it,5 pounds,but if you are looking for detailed instructions on how to set the trigger,go to

http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/eshop/muzzleloaders.asp

While on that page scroll down to links of owners manuals and download Muzzleloader Loading,Shooting and Care Instructions

http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/files/PercussionFlintlock_manual.pdf

Even though it says for percussion flintlocks,it is exactly the same adjustments on all flintlocks,including the DeerHunter and Pa Pellet.
:thumbsup:

 

Sorry!!.. When I went to Traditions web site, I must'a looked at the wrong gun!!

YMHS
rollingb

 

[RussB]

Sorry!!.. When I went to Traditions web site, I must'a looked at the wrong gun!!
YMHS
rollingb

Me too rollingb, so I went back and looked at things again...And, For the first time ever, I saw that the PA Pellet Flinter has a recommended load of 150gr of loose or pellet.

I found that very interseting. Guess that's the first time I've seen, or heard of pellets being recommended in a flinter.

Obivously that how it gets it's name. :huh:

Would someone elaborate just bit on how they've made this possible.

Russ

 

[padowser]

Hi guys: I just bought a PA Pellet Flintlock in the new winter camo pattern. Up until about 3 years ago I did almost all my hunting in Maryland and my T/C 209/50 Encore did great. Now that I am back in PA, after 25 years in the DC Metro area, I am going to try the primitive hunt. (It's a good thing for me that the Encore takes other barrels...... since I can't use my .270 BAR in PA...I got a .243 barrel for the regular season.)

I still hunt in Western MD, but I have nice deer right here on my PA property to hunt so I am going to give it a shot. I spent a long time firing the rifle yesterday. The delay takes some getting used too....not to mention the misfires. I am using 100 Gr. of pyrodex pellets but I may switch to FFg loose Pyrodex.

After I figure the mechanics out I will fine tune the trigger, but for now it seems fine. The only real problem I had was a loose front sight.

I am looking forward to learning more about other aspects of muzzleloading....and tales of the PA Pellet guns.

Very cordially, Dowser

 

Says it's got a "removeable breechplug" fer clean'n too!?!?!? :: :shocking: (what "is" this hybred disguised as a flinter??)

YMHS
rollingb

 

[padowser]

Yep, rollingb, it sure does have that. I wasn't sure which section to start talking about it in...Modern Muzzleloaders or Flintlocks...Traditional Muzzleloader Hunting or Modern Muzzleloader Hunting.

I need to learn alot more about insuring a spark from my flint and a bunch of other stuff. I love history, and the folks here that go for accurate recreation of a given period are pretty cool and have my admiration.

But, I like stuff as modern as possible for the field, so when I saw that feature I decided that was the flintlock for me.

Best, Dowser



"The real work of men was hunting meat. The invention of agriculture was a giant step in the wrong direction, leading to serfdom, cities, and empire. From a race of hunters, artists, warriors, and tamers of horses, we degraded ourselves to what we are now: clerks, functionaries, laborers, entertainers, processors of information." - Edward Abbey

 

What powder does Traditions reccomend fer prime'n tha pan of this "pellet shooter"??

YMHS
rollingb

 

[AgesofDays]

the breech plug is not the cats bum you have to make sure the touchhole is unscrewed a little before you can unscrew the plug if it isnt then you break the allen wrench in half...i use 4f in the pan i tried those dried biscuts in it but once a flintlock always a flintlock so i went back to loose 3f...that breech plug is hollow so you dont need to pic the vent ignition is awsome .the sights are of poor value and they say it takes 5/8th inch flint.... NOT it takes a 1/2 inch pistol flint but after you get over all the little things then your good to go

 

Even with all the latest modern technology, they still require plain ol'nasty real blackpowder to fire!!.. huh?? :haha: :haha:

I guess, I jest fail to see any "advantage" to Traditions' design, compared to a regular flinter. :hmm: ::

YMHS
rollingb

 

[bezoar]

The advantage of a removable breech plug is that, no longer do you have to fanatically pluged the barrel in hot soapy water for half an hour. and theres no chance of leaving a lil bit of residue where the plug meets the riffling.
that plug comes out so you can clean it like any bolt action rifle,sharps,rollingblock eyc, with solvent on a patch and no water.
And make sure the alignment arrows on the plug and breech line up when you reinstall it. else the liner wont screw in and the barrel wont fit into the stock

 

[chickenlittle]

The delay takes some getting used too....not to mention the misfires. I am using 100 Gr. of pyrodex pellets but I may switch to FFg loose Pyrodex.

Before you get used to delays and misfires, you might want to try some real BP. Just for comparison. It might improve things and make that gun more enjoyable.

 

The advantage of a removable breech plug is that, no longer do you have to fanatically pluged the barrel in hot soapy water for half an hour.

I must be do'n sumpthin wrong, 'cause it only takes me 'bout 10 minutes to clean my traditional rifles and smoothbores. (maybe thet's 'cause I don't haft'a take everthin apart to clean the bores!):haha:

YMHS
rollingb

 

[Zonie]

No, I don't own one. Yes, I'm guessing, But, my guess goes along with Chickenlittles comments.

If you can get your hands on some loose FFg or some FFFg, and if your guns manafacturer says it is ok to load loose powder in your pellet shooter, I bet the delay in ignition will drop down to hundredths of a second from the time the pan flashes to the time the gun fires.

In more practical terms, it will fire before you even notice the flash in the pan.

I am old fashioned, but I wonder how the .45-70 and .45-90 managed to kill so many buffalo with only 70 or 90 grains of powder while nowadays it seems people have to have 100-150 grains to kill a little deer? ::

 

I am old fashioned, but I wonder how the .45-70 and .45-90 managed to kill so many buffalo with only 70 or 90 grains of powder while nowadays it seems people have to have 100-150 grains to kill a little deer? ::

Maybe today's deer are "bigger, meaner, and tougher", then the buffler back in tha 1800's!! :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

YMHS
rollingb

 

[RussB]

I am old fashioned, but I wonder how the .45-70 and .45-90 managed to kill so many buffalo with only 70 or 90 grains of powder while nowadays it seems people have to have 100-150 grains to kill a little deer? ::

Can't say I'm any less old fashioned, or less confused.

Reminds me of the saying about being over age 65...........
"If you've never been to an adult book store...don't go. It will only serve to confuse you on a subject you're well versed in".

Russ

 

[Stumpkiller]

I am old fashioned, but I wonder how the .45-70 and .45-90 managed to kill so many buffalo with only 70 or 90 grains of powder while nowadays it seems people have to have 100-150 grains to kill a little deer?

Hunters used to get off their asses, or were they burros then, and get close enough that they didn't need teleoptoscopes to see the critters they was huntin. We demand instant success now, and can't be bothered with things like skills and technique. Time is money, and hunting licenses, fees, leases, etc. are too much investment to allow for chance, sporting or not.

I was just wondering how our boys conquered Europe in tiny 16 Hp canvas topped Willys Jeeps (and the German's 11 Hp Kneubelwagen was 1,000 lbs lighter still!) but now every soldier wants an M1 Abrams around him, or at least a 350 Hp, 9,000 lb. armored Hummer. :winking: We become slaves to technology and modern comforts.

But then they only had to worry about anti-tank mines, mortors and bombs instead of IED's, I guess. (Just being a pain - I think we SHOULD have armored Hummers over there).

 

[Twisted_1in66]

Just in case some of you are a bit confused by this thread, Traditions makes two different Pennsylvania Flintlock Rifles. One is the Pennsylvania Flintlock Rifle and the other is the Pennsylvania "Pellet" Flintlock Rifle. Pennsylvania "Pellet" Flintlock Rifle it is a whole lot different than the Traditions Pennsylvania Rifle.

The Traditions PA Pellet Flintlock has a 26" barrel with a 1 in 48 twist and a removeable breech plug. Overall length is 45" It has a half stock and is similar in style to a GPR or Hawken.

The Pennsylvania Rifle (no-pellets) is a traditional longrifle with the slow twist. Barrel is 40