Paper patched bullets
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Get a copy of Ned Roberts book "The Muzzleloading Cap Lock Rifle". Beyond being a very good read there is considerable information on shooting paper patched bullets in muzzleloaders. The rifles described and shown for shooting paper patch bullets were quite the piece of equipment. I believe you'd enjoy the book. Your local library should be able to get a copy of it and I believe it is still available.
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I have posted several places on Muzzleloadingforum on paper patching my .40 caliber Schuetzen. You might want to try the search engine. Enter "paper patch" and set the date for older than 1 week. (My comments by the way are about paper patched bullets where the paper is shrunk onto the slug, not the paper cartridges used by the military sense before the Rev. War. to speed loading.) In at least one of the posts, I describe how to make the paper patched bullets.
My Schuetzen shoots a 330 grain or a 405 grain .390 diameter pure lead slug. (The 405 grain slug is 1 5/16 inches long.) The paper patches it up to .398 diameter. I apply either SPG lube or my home made 50% bees wax + 50% Vasoline to the paper right before loading.
If applied too soon, it softens the paper causing it to rip when loading.
The Schuetzen game by the way is shot at 200 yards from a standing position. You are permitted to rest your left elbow (if your a right hand shooter) against your side to help steady the rifle. (This is the reason you will often see palm rests hanging down from the forestock.)
Historically it is based on a story of a Jaeger (hunter) seeing an eagle attacking a young child at a far distant range. Using his trusty Jaeger rifle he kills the eagle with his one shot. Knowing this, you will understand why following the target match, a wood/paper mock eagle is placed at a fairly close range and the shooters take turns shooting it to pieces. Das ist gooten funnen, yah? (I never claimed to be able to speak German).
Although I have never shot in Schuetzen competition, I understand that after all of the shooting is thru for the day, a good round of beer drinking is required by all those present. (What won't those Germans think of next).
PS The picture you see under my name is showing the Diopter rear sight and the dolphin hammer waiting for me to load an unsuspecting cap on the Schuetzen.
My Schuetzen shoots a 330 grain or a 405 grain .390 diameter pure lead slug. (The 405 grain slug is 1 5/16 inches long.) The paper patches it up to .398 diameter. I apply either SPG lube or my home made 50% bees wax + 50% Vasoline to the paper right before loading.
If applied too soon, it softens the paper causing it to rip when loading.
The Schuetzen game by the way is shot at 200 yards from a standing position. You are permitted to rest your left elbow (if your a right hand shooter) against your side to help steady the rifle. (This is the reason you will often see palm rests hanging down from the forestock.)
Historically it is based on a story of a Jaeger (hunter) seeing an eagle attacking a young child at a far distant range. Using his trusty Jaeger rifle he kills the eagle with his one shot. Knowing this, you will understand why following the target match, a wood/paper mock eagle is placed at a fairly close range and the shooters take turns shooting it to pieces. Das ist gooten funnen, yah? (I never claimed to be able to speak German).
Although I have never shot in Schuetzen competition, I understand that after all of the shooting is thru for the day, a good round of beer drinking is required by all those present. (What won't those Germans think of next).
PS The picture you see under my name is showing the Diopter rear sight and the dolphin hammer waiting for me to load an unsuspecting cap on the Schuetzen.
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PP bullets will work just as well in a muxzzleloading rifle, as they do in a Sharps. You will have to find the load/paper/alloy cap that shoots the best. yes- caps make as much difference as primers do.
: As well, you will have to clean between shots, unless you use a very thin wad like wax paper on powder, then a lube ball, then wad, then bullet, just as loaded for a ctg. gun.
Daryl
: As well, you will have to clean between shots, unless you use a very thin wad like wax paper on powder, then a lube ball, then wad, then bullet, just as loaded for a ctg. gun.
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vanstg,
I don't any longer but I used to paper patch my bullets for my muzzle loader and they worked extremly well. Several years ago I tried White 460 gr bullets in my T/C Thunderhawk I was using at the time. They were easy to load, to easy and very accurate. I use real black powder and didn't like the fact you had to foul the bore before loading them, so I decided to give up on them and stick to the bullets I had been using. I didn't like the fact a bullet could creep up off the powder charge. One day while paper patching some 45-70 bullets for my Peabody, I got the idea to try patching the big 460's. Took a toothbrush and cleaned all the lube off one and made a rough patch, then tested the fit and it fit snug, perfect with a .0011 patch.
Alot of testing followed using 3 differant guns,patched bullets went into the target at the same point unpatched bullets did. This enabled me to load a patched bullet for the first shot and if any follow up shots were needed, a regular unpatched bullet would do. I would patch 20 at a time leaving the tails on and lightly coat the outside with wonder lube, these were then placed in the clear tubes the original bullets came in for storage and only used for hunting. When ready to load just pop one out, snip the tail off and load.
I hung up 4 nice bucks using this patched 460 gr bullet on top of 100gr FF powder. I no longer use that gun or bullet, having moved on to something differant but I still have to patch a few every year for my Uncle who continues to use it.
I don't any longer but I used to paper patch my bullets for my muzzle loader and they worked extremly well. Several years ago I tried White 460 gr bullets in my T/C Thunderhawk I was using at the time. They were easy to load, to easy and very accurate. I use real black powder and didn't like the fact you had to foul the bore before loading them, so I decided to give up on them and stick to the bullets I had been using. I didn't like the fact a bullet could creep up off the powder charge. One day while paper patching some 45-70 bullets for my Peabody, I got the idea to try patching the big 460's. Took a toothbrush and cleaned all the lube off one and made a rough patch, then tested the fit and it fit snug, perfect with a .0011 patch.
Alot of testing followed using 3 differant guns,patched bullets went into the target at the same point unpatched bullets did. This enabled me to load a patched bullet for the first shot and if any follow up shots were needed, a regular unpatched bullet would do. I would patch 20 at a time leaving the tails on and lightly coat the outside with wonder lube, these were then placed in the clear tubes the original bullets came in for storage and only used for hunting. When ready to load just pop one out, snip the tail off and load.
I hung up 4 nice bucks using this patched 460 gr bullet on top of 100gr FF powder. I no longer use that gun or bullet, having moved on to something differant but I still have to patch a few every year for my Uncle who continues to use it.
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