PC first Aid kit

Titus Bass used spider web and buzzard down and herbal roots and needles and sinew ta patch himself up with. Ya might want to learn as much as you can about the medicinal plants of your area and it will always be handy if ya put some on your pack mule.

 

[Ron LaClair]

Have any of you used a mud pack for bee stings? My grandmother first put one on me when I got stung when I was a boy. I've done it with my kids and grand kids, it really works to keep down the swelling and pain of the sting.

I think it works by drawing the poison from the sting as the mud drys.

 

[musketman]

Have any of you used a mud pack for bee stings? My grandmother first put one on me when I got stung when I was a boy. I've done it with my kids and grand kids, it really works to keep down the swelling and pain of the sting.

I think it works by drawing the poison from the sting as the mud drys.

Yes I have, it also works for poison sumac on me, haven't tried it on poison ivy yet...

Mud is great, Earth has "pulling" properties, it draws the poisons out...

I use it on the kids when they get stung, they yell "it's gonna hurt" when I use medicine for stings, but they have yet to yell when I say its OK to get muddy... :grin:

 

[bnail]

Have any of you used a mud pack for bee stings? My grandmother first put one on me when I got stung when I was a boy. I've done it with my kids and grand kids, it really works to keep down the swelling and pain of the sting.

I think it works by drawing the poison from the sting as the mud drys.

any particular mud? do you think it's the mud itself, or the act of drying that does it? I don't mean to sound flippant, but if it's the act of drying that draws out the poison, then theoretically you could slap on a handfull of wet toilet paper to achieve the same effect.

 

[musketman]

Have any of you used a mud pack for bee stings? My grandmother first put one on me when I got stung when I was a boy. I've done it with my kids and grand kids, it really works to keep down the swelling and pain of the sting.

I think it works by drawing the poison from the sting as the mud drys.

any particular mud? do you think it's the mud itself, or the act of drying that does it? I don't mean to sound flippant, but if it's the act of drying that draws out the poison, then theoretically you could slap on a handfull of wet toilet paper to achieve the same effect.

I think it has more to do with the clay in the mud than the evaporation of water...

 

[bnail]

I think you're right. I just did a search on google for "mud packs" they all claim that it works, but I can't seem to find out why. needless to say, I've not found any sites espousing the use of saturated Charmin!

 

[twotoescharlie]

has to be raw honey,cooked honey won't work

TTC

 

[shmrck1]

I know we have all seen it in movies to stop
bleeding or coterize(sp) a wound was a hot
knife or pouring B/P in the wound and set it off.
It makes sence that these things occurred. But,
I think they would also like some booze or
laudnum which was a heroin based medicine and
readily available in those times. There were
herbs and plants that they learned from the native indians and I am sure they made use of.
They may not have carried near as much as we are
assuming they did to take care of them selves.
snake-eyes :hmm:

 

[Russianblood]

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[Legionair]

Never used mud, but furnace cement works....

Tightens up good as it dries, and does pull hard on the skin and poison.

Course, you should try not to get stung to begin with......

Legion

 

[Ridge]

I like to be PC myself, but a wise man once told me "If you want to live exactly like a longhunter, then you will die exactly like a longhunter".

I won't trek without a water purifier, a cell phone, and a small first aid kit.

 

[renovato]

I think you're right. I just did a search on google for "mud packs" they all claim that it works, but I can't seem to find out why. needless to say, I've not found any sites espousing the use of saturated Charmin!

I think it works for the same reason the wimmins put mud packs on their face. It draws out all the ugly and makes them purdy again.

You don't see the wimmins puttin' wet toiler paper on their face. Though that's probably because they're scared it might do to their face, what it did to their butt. :haha:

 

[anvil1231]

Never used any mud packs for stings but Grand Pa always used chewing tobacco on stings and rashes. He would put kerosene on any other cuts,scrapes,burns or bruises. anvil

 

[Ron LaClair]

My Dad and grand dad put turpentine on cuts. Grandpa put chewin tobacco on things too for a draw. Dad blew pipe smoke in the kids ears when they had an ear ache

 

[Homesteader]

Loyd's right about the honey. Way back when Legionaires would smear cuts with honey (& often vinegar). It's antiseptic. Works by drawing moisture from any cells in the area - including bacteria - thereby rupturing and destroying them. Sugar does the same thing, as does salt. Can't imagine anyone tough enough to do the latter, though. It's a lot like curing meat. The dressing has to be changed frequently to maintain the proper biological environment.

I understand many Indians would carry bird's down to stuff into wounds. Once bound it would be a sort of primitive gauze. Very absorbant.

The ascorbic acid of the willow is a mild pain reliever. Back in the day they'd mostly make tea out of it. Lots of herbs and the like were used that way. (Pine needle tea for upset stomach, etc.)

There's a really great book I read about a year ago about primitive and field expedient methods of wound treatment that was written by a wonderfully skeptical research medical doctor. He was surprised by the number of treatments that were effective. (Such as letting a dog lick a wound, wrapping a wound in cellophane, or applying maggots to a badly infected wound. They only eat necrotic tissue, y'know.) Leeches can reduce swelling in key areas, a mud poultice will draw out things like slivers, thorns, stingers, and mild poisons. In fact, it seems that the natural world was a pharmacy to those who knew what they were doing.

I'll see if I can find the name & author of that book, and will post it if I can.

Hope this wasn't too long-winded. I find this an interesting topic.

 

[Stumpkiller]

Well, I'm generally wearing a neck cloth - and any old Boy Scout knows you can use a neckerchief for everything from a bandage to a sling to a shelter half and a parachute. I also carry rolls of ticking (1-1/2" x 6 ft or so). Flattened out works as well as a gauze pad. I carry a small bottle of alcohol for wiping out the barrel after a wash up with stream water, that's 91% iso. and a good antiseptic.

25 ft of 5/16" manila or hemp line makes a deer drag, or can bind sticks to splint a broken leg (as can two bow strings).

About the best thing to have is a cool head and some prior first aid training. A full medic's pack does you no good if you are in shock and have no idea how to render first aid. I was on the "finger squad" at a foundry where I worked. Several shear presses were used to snip off the flashings on brass and iron castings. When the bell went off I got the ice packs out of the freezer and brought the company car around to the docks to receive the injured man and, hopefully, his finger. We all had regular first aid training - back when life was less litigious and there were no qualms about getting an injured man's blood all over yourself.

There are other good things to know. If you get into posion ivy it's good to know crushed jewelweed is a remedy (also a mild antiseptic for cuts and is said to soothe burns and bruises)

 

[Cruzatte]

Have any of you used a mud pack for bee stings? My grandmother first put one on me when I got stung when I was a boy. I've done it with my kids and grand kids, it really works to keep down the swelling and pain of the sting.

I think it works by drawing the poison from the sting as the mud drys.

I saw that happen to my brother once. Yeah, mud really does work. Leastways it worked on him that time.
Cruzatte

 

[rj55]

I have to agree with Skagan and Longhunter, Like the man said, " there's no reason to die a period correct death". Better safe that sorry.
Jeff

A lot of people cheat and put modern stuff in period containers, I prefer not to do that. :shake:
It defeats the effort in my opinion. :nono:

do you walk or ride a horse to a rendezvous, or do you cheat and take a car or truck?

If you don't ride a horse or walk, it pretty much makes you a hypocrite don't it?

PC is PC, anything else is just guys having a good time right???

DON"T BE A HYPOCRITE!

best wishes,
RJ

 

I have to agree with Skagan and Longhunter, Like the man said, " there's no reason to die a period correct death". Better safe that sorry.
Jeff

A lot of people cheat and put modern stuff in period containers, I prefer not to do that. :shake:
It defeats the effort in my opinion. :nono:

do you walk or ride a horse to a rendezvous, or do you cheat and take a car or truck?

If you don't ride a horse or walk, it pretty much makes you a hypocrite don't it?

PC is PC, anything else is just guys having a good time right???

DON"T BE A HYPOCRITE!

best wishes,
RJ

Geez, maybe the event starts for him when he gets to the event, not when he leaves the house and gets into the car? I would suspect that the event ends when he leaves the event to drive home, not all the way home!

 

[Ron LaClair]

do you walk or ride a horse to a rendezvous, or do you cheat and take a car or truck?

If you don't ride a horse or walk, it pretty much makes you a hypocrite don't it?

PC is PC, anything else is just guys having a good time right???

DON"T BE A HYPOCRITE!

best wishes,
RJ

I said,

A lot of people cheat and put modern stuff in period containers, I prefer not to do that.
It defeats the effort in my opinion.

You do it your way and I'll do it my way. :blah: ... :rotf: