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Just received a pre-carved M2 southern mountain stock with a 3/4" barrel channel for a friend's rifle. This was my first buy from them, so I didn't know what to expect. They did have a good reputation, and I had heard good from at least one rifle builder back in the day. The stock was beautiful, symmetrical, and at least an M3 in my book. It did have a tight (no fit) barrel channel, which took me about 2 hours to scrape into a good fit. No complaint, some builders probably like having a pre-carve channel that tight to precisely fit their barrel, but I could have done with less. Anyway for the money my friend was very pleased and I would definitely buy from Pec again. George.
 
good wood and bad rifle barrel channel, yes i would use them again, but order a larger barrel channel and fill in with what i do to make barrels fit perfect. AGAIN VERY GOOD WOOD BUT POOR BARREL grooves
 
I'd rather a tight barrel channel that needs fitting than one that is too loose and shows large gaps between wood and steel......

Gaps in small areas like say the tang or butt plate, or even the lock can be corrected with epoxy like Acraglass, but how would you fix a long gap on a barrel channel? I can't see bedding the entire barrel and getting it to look right.
 
I recieved my 1st stock from them about a week ago, also the hardware required for a Harper's Ferry 1803. The wood looks very good, no sap wood, however it is not drop in and I did not expect it to be drop in. The stock will require some sanding, fitting, finishing and the barrel channel will need to be opened up. All things I expected from a pre-carve stock.

As for the being good folks to deal with? I think the are the some of the most personable folks I've ever delt with and I will certainly buy from them again.
 
I am no expert, but why bed a smoke pole? A high power there can be a need or benefit. Even then the main idea is to bed the action, not so much the barrel channel as most are free floating. Maybe to strengthen the stock, but that's what the barrel does. I don't see barrel whip being a big accuracy issue with a PRB.
 
then it is of no use talking to you about it, a couple of the smokepoles ive built were made to shoot 1000 yards and not all smoke poles shoot patched round balls. i could continue but what is the use?
 
Wow... It was an honest question, interesting response. By all means, please continue.

That may be true, but those 1,000 yd MLers are just a bit out of the norm... ( And I don't think those rifles would qualify as traditional muzzleloaders)...To snidely insinuate that you need to bed a barrel channel on a MLer to be considered a good gun builder is outright laughable.
 
i guess you were around when they were shooting 1000 matches with traditional side locks only with fast twist and paperpatched bullets. man oh man , all i got to say is man oh man. you told them back then it wasnt traditional. i forget, some want to just blow smoke and pretend they hit something. why do i bother. because their may be some one out their who really wants to learn and even have something that i can benifit from. please leave it alone, you dont want to learn and you are discouraging maybe some one that wants to add or find out something that will benifit them. their is more to muzzleloading than just making them go off.
 
Never said it wasn't done, but not what 99.99% of MLers are into. I'm probably missing a 9.... Guys make motorcycles that run +300 mph, not the norm either.

But you're right. Nevermind....
 
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