Pedersoli bess's and possibly other military reproductions do not have patent style breeches.
Their Indian trade gun does.
Their Indian trade gun does.
That was my first thought as well. Swabbing can help keep tight groups and a very consistent barrel condition - but it has to be done the right way.......I wonder if the original poster is swabbing between shots or after a string of shots?
Many times the modern manufacturing methods dictate why/how something is made. Doing something the best, old way often conflicts with financial considerations. I believe we're fortunate to even have companies like Pedersoli, etc., around at all in this modern world.I'm one of those shooters who does not like patent breeches at all. I cannot understand why they dominate the factory market when they, IMHO, offer no noticeable advantage nor a reason for them. But I have to say my two Pedersoli never gave me any problems at all.
I'd like to have a nice Trade Gun, but would want one of the ones more traditionally made or assembled, so that would leave out the Pedersoli. Thanks for the info.Pedersoli bess's and possibly other military reproductions do not have patent style breeches.
Their Indian trade gun does.
Very similar to my Pedersoli. Reassembly my be spot on as the liner must thread through the barrel and also through the breech plug. Make certain the witness marks line up exactly.CVA's breech can be removed but to do it the drum or plug with the vent in it has to come out first. After it is out, the breech plug at the rear can be unscrewed.
The problem is, when the breech is reassembled, the threaded side hole in the barrel must line up exactly with threaded hole in the breech plug. "Close" isn't good enough.
Chris, measure with the small end of the RR, then put a jag on the end of the RR and measure again. And if the RR end doesn't go down the powder chute, get some thin steel or brass rod that WILL go down unto the chamber. I had on on a .36 that the chamber was about .20" in diameter.Lots of good comments here guys, I use either mr flintlock lube or just spit on the patch when reloading. I dont swab between shots unless the fouling is causing loading issues. If i do swab i alsovsent a brass brush into breech to clear it.
I think alot of it is the buildup of crud on the breech face becoming damp with humidity and causing the powder to stick there rather than enter the breech chamber. As long as I pick the vent though i dont notice any delay in ignition so there isnt a large ammount of gunk buildup keeping the flash from traveling thru the breech to the powder.
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Any idea what the capacity of the breech chamber is? I marked my range rod and there is only about 1/16" inch difference in ball depth with the chamber full vs empty.
Chris
On the first 2 or 3 shots of a shooting session when i pick the vent after loading i can feel the powder in the breech. After a few shots I notice when picking that the breech chamber is empty, not fouled or anything, just empty. When firingvwith the breech empty vs full i havent noticed any appreciable delay in lock time so the flash is still easily reaching the powder in the barrel.
My standard load is 50-60gr of 3f goex.
I have been reusing large plastic jugs of cold brewed coffee now for a few years. I rinse them and use an aluminum funnel and a plastic spoon to measure powdered instant coffee into those jugs. I noticed that if I trickled from the spoon, rather than dump each spoon full, the coffee doesn't get choked up in the hole, necessitating pokes with a pecan pic to clear the clog.Contrary to hansi, I like patent breeches. I use them especially on the target pistols I build because a patent breech will give more uniform pressures which gives more uniform velocities which ultimately leads to higher possible scores. I have found that trickling the first few grains of the powder charge into the barrel before upending the measure to dump the bulk always fills the chamber and I have powder grains showing at the touch hole. a bump of the breech guarantees it. If the powder charge is dumped in bulk into the barrel it arrives at the breech in mass and cannot enter the breech chamber because of the bulk..
A very good tip to improve ignition on these chambered breech systems. Every idea helps. Thanks!Contrary to hansi, I like patent breeches. I use them especially on the target pistols I build because a patent breech will give more uniform pressures which gives more uniform velocities which ultimately leads to higher possible scores. I have found that trickling the first few grains of the powder charge into the barrel before upending the measure to dump the bulk always fills the chamber and I have powder grains showing at the touch hole. a bump of the breech guarantees it. If the powder charge is dumped in bulk into the barrel it arrives at the breech in mass and cannot enter the breech chamber because of the bulk..
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