Pietta or Traditions?

[jderrick]

Sooo.... I've got to choose between two 1858s -- the Pietta or the Traditions. No big difference in price, both .44 steel frames....

Any major differences? One is better made/better company/better expeiriences with it?

Thanks for any advice.

 

[kgs113]

Same thing. Traditions name on top of the box, Pietta on the side.

 

[jderrick]

And this is why I ask questions -- Thanks!

 

[Texas77]

Buy Uberti

 

[sverre]

Why Uberti?
I dont know if you can get all Pietta models in US but the Pietta Shooters model is besides Hege Maximun the closest you get to the original Remington. The Shooters hav a gain twist barrel just as the original and will take .457 bullets, I have one, and the accuracy is superb.
Many European top shooters use it for competitions.
Its cheaper than the Hege Maximum. Oh yeah, I have had several Ubertis, good quality but not near the Shooters model to Pietta.

Cheers

 

[Vostok]

Sharps:

Excuse my ignorance. What is a gain twist barrel?

Thanks,

 

[Wes/Tex]

I'll jump in with an answer. "Gain -twist" is rifling that starts slow at the breech and speeds up toward the muzzle. The "Shooters" version mentioned is Pietta's 'flagship' revolver and appears to get special handling and finishing. The twist style was also used by Parker Hale on their Enfield musket repos. The current maker now uses standard twist. Gain-twist rifling usually allows for target accuracy and the 'Shooters' pistol has won several European competitions.

 

[Vostok]

Wes/Tex:

Thanks for the info, I had never heard of that rifling type before. Is that typically found in high-end BP arms only or do you see it in modern cartridge as well?

Also, is that a technique used in the original period of say a Remington 1858 or is it a 20th century invention?

Sorry for all the questions, this topic just struck a chord with me.

Thanks again for the info :bow:

 

[Wes/Tex]

To my knowledge, 'gain-twist' rifling is not usual for modern firearms...though others may have better information. While the Enfields for Minies used this type rifling, the superior target arms, Whitworth, etc., used their own specific rifling types. I haven't founf specific info about the M.1858 Remingtons actually using special rifling but would imagine that all the war production revolvers were rifed in traditional twists for the sake of production. Some early cartridge target guns may have used 'gain-twist' rifling but don't hae specific info on that. Perhaps someone else here can help on this aspect.

 

[CoyoteJoe]

I may be wrong but it's my understanding that the Parker-Hale rifles did not use gain twist but "progressive depth" rifling. The grooves were cut deeper at the breech and less deep at the muzzle. The idea being to keep the lead slug tight in the bore, somewhat like a choked bore.
If either system, gain twist or progressive depth had offered any clear superiority they would have been more popular. :grin:
Don't know about the Remington but original Colts were gain twist.