Plastic can for black powder?

[ckckck]

Just bought some KIK from the good folks at Powder Inc. It comes in plastic 1-pound cans. Plastic makes me think about static, which makes me think about sparks, which makes me think about all those warnings on plastic gasoline cans. Does anyone have any special tricks to avoid static sparks around their plastic-canned black powder???

 

[Vaino]

Pose your questions to KIK or Powder. Inc....Fred

 

[ckckck]

OK. Thanks.

 

[majg1234]

It all comes that way now.My most recent order of goex was in plastic can.There is a thread on the forum about it and someone posted that this particular plastic is/was "antistatic" :idunno: I'm saving my metal cans and will transfer it as available....plastic just ain't right :grin:

 

[Coot]

If the manufacturer thought there was a hazard with plastic containers, they would not use them. There is information re black powder & static electricity in the locked topics at the top of the "Shooting Accessories" sub-forum including photos of attempts (failures) to get BP to ignite using static sparks.

 

[JMiller]

I used to work for a company that did a lot of plastic injection molding, there are plastics that are problematic with static charge, but, those compounds are not used in bottles, hardhats, or any application that you want to avoid static build up. HDPE, high density poly-ethylene, is what is normally used in those applications, we never had static issues with that compound. I had the same concerns with a powder flask, that came in an accessory kit, but it has the HDPE mark.

 

[Rifleman1776]

There are tons of tests and reports that have shown static elec. is too cold to ignite bp. It just won't happen. Don't sweat this non-issue.
BTW, I saw a 'can' of T7 (fake powder, I don't use the stuff) at my recent club shoot, It is designed like a big beer mug with a handy handle. I like it. Would like to have a couple empties and will have to ask the user to save for me.

 

[cynthialee]

Some of us have tried all we were worth to get a static charge to ignite BP and there is no worries here.
Static will not ignite BP.

 

[leslie]

The ignition of anything is related to temperature,the sparks from static electricity caused by your body grounding out is simply not hot enough and that goes for other sources of static electricity.Electric sparks from shorting out electric sources is a another matter,those sparks are HOT.The guy that developed the electric trigger for a certain not to be named shooting apparatus did a ton of research on this subject because the trigger could have been a bundle cheaper to make if static electricity would ignite powder.Its a good idea NOT to operate any electrical devices or any other source of sparks when handling black powder.There is a reason why that stuff is hazmat.Gasoline is another subject because of the vapor that is real volatile.Knowing the flash points of the different materials explains a lot.

 

Plastic makes me think about static, which makes me think about sparks, ???

Did you read the topic that is stuck to the top of this category "Static Electricity and Black Powder"?

 

[William O.]

It all comes that way now.My most recent order of goex was in plastic can.There is a thread on the forum about it and someone posted that this particular plastic is/was "antistatic" :idunno: I'm saving my metal cans and will transfer it as available....plastic just ain't right :grin:

I feel the same way and have plenty of metal cans for future transfers.

As for the orginal question, it's been shown numerous times that static electricity simply cannot generate enough heat to set of black powder and those warnings on gas pumps about turning off your cell phone are also bunk and were shown by Myth Busters to be invalid.

 

[hawkeye2]

For well over 25 years I have been using plastic cans that the dry ink for Xerox copy machines came in. I also supplied them to all the members of our group and no one has had any issues. When I buy powder in 5 pound lots it comes in a plastic bag inside a brown paper bag with a red rubber stamp on it from Goex. I transfer into plastic containers with the same plastic funnel I have been using for over 25 years. If static was much of a problem I would expect to see powder grains clinging to the plastics but I don't.

 

[necchi]

You got it hawkeye2,
Powder has been coming in plastic containers now for over two decades,
but you just can't get some guy's to take the blinders off for love nor money. :youcrazy:

 

[Poor Private]

I prefer plastic cans(?). Why you ask? because plastic don't rust. Rust equals leaks. Any moisture can and will start rust on a tin can. Unless you happen to have a humid free safe, or storage area.

 

[George T.]

The blinders are really not a problem. The 1 in a million guy that it touches him off will never bare witness. I bought into the modern "not to worry" stuff but I can assure you if I blow my self up I'll be ******! Geo. T.

 

[necchi]

but I can assure you if I blow my self up I'll be ******! Geo. T.

:haha:
Well if you blow yourself up I hope it makes the National News,
Cause we're all starving for some form of proof that the few million individual pounds of powder sold in plastic jugs does indeed create a static spark hazard.

 

[hawkeye2]

I just happened to recall many years ago I bought some nasty imported black powder to save $1 per pound over Goex. It came in a metal can with a plastic spout and an attached plastic snap closed lid.

I actually like the plastic cans over the metal though I have a bunch of the metal ones and sometimes use them if one comes to hand while I'm transferring powder. I feel the plastic ones are less likely to get condensation though where I store my powder has a relatively consistent temperature and humidity. BTW I'm not the least bit scarred to use any powder measures with plastic parts.

 

[Rifleman1776]

In the 1970s, when there was a bad bp shortage, I bought powder in wholesale quantities in 25 lb. metal kegs. The kegs were plastic lined. I poured the powder out into 1 lb. freezer boxes, also plastic lined. The static generated was considerable and, disturbing. Powder dust would cling to my bench in the familiar loops made with magnets and metal filings.
It only blew up once and kilt me instantly. :shocked2:

 

[Col. Batguano]

But reloading gear for BP cartridges is all brass.

Is this just a marketing ploy t sell more stuff by the reloading folks (RCBS, Lyman, Hornady, Lee)?

 

[FishDFly]

Amazing, folks will pump gasoline into plastic containers in the back of a pickup during cold weather with low humidity. They do not worry about static electricity at the time. They then worry about BP and plastic containers. Check the flashpoint of gasoline versus BP.

Folks will stand next to their vehicle during cold weather with low humidity while pumping gasoline into it while they are talking on the phone or texting. Duh, the battery has electricity in it, there is you ignition point.