Please help me identify these old guns... thanks...

[Tylerselph]

Hello all... I own a pawnshop in Michigan and someone brought all these old guns in and I bought them all. I have not been able to find any identifying marks on them at all and would like to know if anyone has any ideas as to their history. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I also thought I'd add a few pictures of an old powder horn as well to see if anyone has thoughts about it... Thank you in advance for your help...

 

[Little Wattsy]

Dont see any pictures...Did you use photobucket.com?

 

[Tylerselph]

Thanks for your reply however this is my first time trying to post a subject and I have found no way to upload pictures from my hard-drive. Any suggestions would be greatly apprecitated. Thanks..

 

[Little Wattsy]

Thanks for your reply however this is my first time trying to post a subject and I have found no way to upload pictures from my hard-drive. Any suggestions would be greatly apprecitated. Thanks..

Load from your hard drive to photobucket.com (you will need to set up an account ~ dosnt take much and its free) then copy n paste the URL from photobucket.com to your post on this forum.

 

[Tylerselph]

Hello all... I own a pawnshop in Michigan and someone brought all these old guns in and I bought them all. I have not been able to find any identifying marks on them at all and would like to know if anyone has any ideas as to their history. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I also thought I'd add a few pictures of an old powder horn as well to see if anyone has thoughts about it... Thank you in advance for your help...

 

[Little Wattsy]

COOL! DONT try to "clean them up". Someone on here should have some help. :thumbsup:

 

[Steve Boyleston]

North African, Morocco , these are classic for the style there. Pinyone

 

[KHickam]

Happy Birthday GP

 

[rafterob]

Pirate booty!

 

[Mike Brooks]

North African, Morocco , these are classic for the style there. Pinyone

Yup, the sword is probably the most valuable piece. I hope you didn't pay much for the collection.

 

[Pigman]

Where in Michigan is this pawn shop? I may want to stop by.

 

[Zonie]

Tylerselph
I can't say I recognize any of them as being real working guns.

They remind me of something that might have been sold as "real antiques" to a tourist in North Africa but in reality were made just around the corner in someones house a month ago.

The hammer/nipple alignment looks totally wrong and I'm not sure one of them would even fire.
That's not to say I would recommend actually shooting any of them. I wouldn't.

If I owned a Pawn Shop that had these I would put a very low price on them (enough to recoup my money) and stress to anyone who buys them that they are for decoration only. Not to be shot under any circumstances. Not even with a firecracker dropped down the bore.

 

[spud]

All look like Kyber pass specials. Akbar & sons...
don't even think about loading one of these

 

[trent/OH]

Do yourself, your customers, and our hobby a big favor please. Take a gun cleaning rod or a dowel rod and run it down each pistol's barrel to verify they are unloaded. Bottom out the rod, then compare the depth you were able to attain with the length of the barrel to the breech. For example, if the muzzle to breech measures 8 inches along the outside of the barrel, and the inside of the barrel only seems to be 7 inches deep, then assume that ancient pistol is still loaded until you can prove otherwise. Of course there could be an old wasp nest in the barrel, or some million rupee notes (which are probably almost as valuable as the wasp nest). But you'd do yourself and all of us a big service by ensuring they are not loaded. Thanks, and welcome to the forum!

 

[zimmerstutzen]

My vote would be Kyber junk. However, the one with the lighter stock somewhat resembles some of the Belgian pistols sold in the late 1950's and early 1960's by Dixie Gun Works. I heard somewhere that the Belgian stuff sold by Dixie was being made and swapped to Natives in their African colonies and Turner bought and sold some of the better of the cheap stuff intended for the African trade. .

By all means, check the bores to make sure they aren't loaded with anything. Sell as hangers not shooters.

 

[44-henry]

I'd check to see if there loaded, clean them up, and hang them on your wall for display only, one of our local pawnshops does this with lots of guns that they wouldn't otherwise feel comfortable selling and it makes a unique display.

 

[Birddog6]

First, check & insure they are not loaded. I have bought 3 loaded ML's in pawn shops before & one was delivered to me by USPS that way.
I would plug all the bores with a full bore length of epoxied in dowel rod to insure nobody can load them. Take a wire welder & just touch the nipple hole with them. Hang them on the wall or give them to grandkids to play with.

:shake: No way would I want to sell them as is, as there is always a Darwin Award candidate around the next corner.....

 

[whitedog333]

I'm firmly convinced that everything that you have is nothing but decorative wall art, made to look like real antique firearms at a distance and to the gullible. None of these appear to be any sort of real firearm. They all appear to be made of some soft wood like pine and put together with fake locks and barrels and sheet brass and tin. I hope that you didn't pay very much for them as together, they wouldn't be worth more than $40.00 or so. Sorry.

 

[Eric Krewson]

The first thing that came to mind whe I saw the pictures was old movie prop guns.

 

[Tkendrick]

The first thing that came to mind whe I saw the pictures was old movie prop guns.

My thought exactly.