Plugged Barrel Reminder

[Mulebrain]

I agree, it does look like a plugged barrel failure, and only want to point out, that other things can cause these failures.

:winking:

 

[Maynerd62411]

I saw a modern shotgun in a local gun shop that the guy had a 20 ga. shell in the breech of a 12 ga, gun and jacked a 12 ga. shell behind it and damn near blew his arm off.
NEVER CARRY 2 SIZES AMMO.
It not only had a barrel obstruction , but it hit the primer of the 20 ga. shot shell. It blew the entire action apart.

 

[Mulebrain]

Funny how we talk about making sure the barrel is not plugged up, yet we repeatedly force obsructions down the barrel all the time! :haha:

 

[davy]

We are not sure what caused the blow up ... but after having discussed it we believe it may have been either an obstruction or barrel fatigue ... as the guy said he was using factory 7mm mag ammo. He was pretty shook up, his left hand close to the destruction was quite numb, but was otherwise ok! It made quite a bang! I was a few feet away when it happened! Certainly got my attention! I just happened to have a camera with me because my nephew was shooting to get ready for deer hunting for the first time in his life .. a good lesson to be learned by him as well!

Yes please feel free to use the picture! A valuble tool ... a picture is worth a thousand words to avoid injury! Safety should be paramount to everthing else in this sport! A nice reminder for me anyway ... made me think for a while after that happened!

Davy

 

[Mulebrain]

We are not sure what caused the blow up ... but after having discussed it we believe it may have been either an obstruction or barrel fatigue ... as the guy said he was using factory 7mm mag ammo. He was pretty shook up, his left hand close to the destruction was quite numb, but was otherwise ok! It made quite a bang! I was a few feet away when it happened! Certainly got my attention! I just happened to have a camera with me because my nephew was shooting to get ready for deer hunting for the first time in his life .. a good lesson to be learned by him as well!

Yes please feel free to use the picture! A valuble tool ... a picture is worth a thousand words to avoid injury! Safety should be paramount to everthing else in this sport! A nice reminder for me anyway ... made me think for a while after that happened!

Davy

Davy,

That was my guess! Was the rifle bench fired prior to the barrel failure that day? Factory ammo can be faulty, it has been proven!

If my guess is right, it was more than once.

 

[Runner]

The picture shown is from an obstruction. Once you see a few of them, they are readily recognizable. I can take pictures of the 22 I referenced if you need to see them. I think dad has that gun at his house. The snow plug that caused that one was sliding in the barrel too much to be picked out with a twig and could most likely have been blown out with his breath. It is the classic thick for caliber barrel split from end to end by a barrel end obstruction. I can also show you split magnum barrels from too much oil being in them if I take the time to go photograph them at several gun shops.

 

[davy]

The picture shown is from an obstruction. Once you see a few of them, they are readily recognizable. I can take pictures of the 22 I referenced if you need to see them. I think dad has that gun at his house. The snow plug that caused that one was sliding in the barrel too much to be picked out with a twig and could most likely have been blown out with his breath. It is the classic thick for caliber barrel split from end to end by a barrel end obstruction. I can also show you split magnum barrels from too much oil being in them if I take the time to go photograph them at several gun shops.

If I remember correctly (old age is settin in : it was his first shot of the day .. course he denied a barrel obstruction, but based on the way he described his actions before the incident, he did not check the bore ... it looked to be a fairly new Ruger 77 .. nice lookin rifle .. right up to the point where the barrel bloomed! :curse:

I was just glad no one was seriously injured that day!

Davy

 

The picture shown is from an obstruction. Once you see a few of them, they are readily recognizable. I can take pictures of the 22 I referenced if you need to see them. I think dad has that gun at his house. The snow plug that caused that one was sliding in the barrel too much to be picked out with a twig and could most likely have been blown out with his breath. It is the classic thick for caliber barrel split from end to end by a barrel end obstruction. I can also show you split magnum barrels from too much oil being in them if I take the time to go photograph them at several gun shops.

If I remember correctly (old age is settin in : it was his first shot of the day .. course he denied a barrel obstruction, but based on the way he described his actions before the incident, he did not check the bore ... it looked to be a fairly new Ruger 77 .. nice lookin rifle .. right up to the point where the barrel bloomed! :curse:

I was just glad no one was seriously injured that day!

Davy

Me too! :redthumb:

First shot of the day... fairly new rifle... didn't check the bore... factory ammo... 4 inches of good barrel after the bloom... had to be a blockage.

 

[3 stinky dogs]

A heavely lubed barrel can cause a barrel to blow up to.Aour range boss baught $10.00 a 30/30 that was dilebratley blown up from excessive oil in the barrel. I will try and get some pictures of this for you all

 

I personally witnessed a M60 self destruct as well has helped give treatment to man who lost his arm .
We had been firing in our position most of the morning when his pig chain fired with and ammo can of attached belts .
The barrel he had just replaced but had about 200 rounds through the rotation . I had shut down my gun and was in the process of rotating out the barrel

 

[Tahquamenon]

Good advice Musketman! :thumbsup:

Always need to be cognizant of foriegn material in the bore that could cause an obstruction.

Also, if you drop your muzzleloader you should un-prime and then check to ensure that your projectile is still seated firmly on the powder charge.

:imo:

 

[Slamfire]

Ok! Let's say a barrel gets a dirt pack in the muzzle. The powder charge is packed with patch and round ball. Why wouldn't the air pressure generated by the forward motion of the patched round ball force out the obstruction?

We have all seen people sticking fingers in the end of barrels, forcing the barrel to explode. We have seen forced destruction of captured artillery. We have also seen a giant cannon filled with mud and destroyed, in John Wayne's Alamo.

I want to see documented ballistic proof. I understand potential danger of firing a non properly seated round, causing barrel bulge and such.

Are we saying that dirt blocked muzzle, will not allow the bullet to move forward at such a rapid pace, that barrel rupture is immanent?

I would tend to guarantee, that during many wars, barrels were fired with a dirt in the muzzle. I bet this happened allot in WWII, with M1's and such!

It has happened, I've seen pictures of a sectioned 1911 barrel with multiple hardballs resting nose to tail within. I'm not in the mood to hold onto the gun while it achieves that status.
The compressing air will blow a piece of tape off of a muzzle, and I've seen it recommended as a method of keeping snow out. However, I have heard of spider webs causing the barrel destruction illustrated in those pictures. :nono: