Sharps - I'd really like that myself. I reallyleiek sitting around with like-minded people.
:Maxiball- thanks - & you are absolutely right concerning the big bullets on deer and bear. Deer are well known for running long distances when shot with very fast bullets, especially heart shot. When a 405gr. from an old Springfield or hoped up load from a modern 45-70 drifts through the boiler room, they usally go straight down.
: Black Bear as also suseptable to hydrostatic or nerve shock, which is why they usually drop at about any shot, but will jump right back up and take off. They're also tough. The farthest I've had one go was a lung-shot big dry sow, hit broadside through the lungs. She dropped when the 340gr. FN cast bullet went through, got up, but only staggered 20' before dropping, kick once, bawled and that was it. All other's I've shot with my various medium to big bores has dropped and not moved. A buddy of mine uses nothing but his .300 Weatherby with 200gr. Noslers and head shoots his B. Bear at 40 yds. max. Not one has moved. yet, his friend uses a .300 Winch. like to lung shoot them, and usually finds them 50yds. from where they were hit.
; Yes - there's something wrong with ft. lbs. These are numbers that don't seem to add up to results shown on game.
: No-Jacket, - we have the same types of aboriginal problems here. Bloody makes one fry sometimes, but when the government crunch comes, we'll be buying shooting supplies from them in all likelyhood. There may be a silver lining in that continuous headache.
: I am all for slugs for shooting animals with small bores. In the proper twist, they give excellent results. If they didn't, our RB's wouldn't have been replaced by them. There are game facts, though, when using the truley big bores, a round ball is much more effective, IMMEDIATELY, within it's effective range, than is a smaller bore rifle with perhaps a deeper penetrating bullet, within the range large game is commonly shot at. There is "a be-numbing effect to the blow", to quote Forsythe.
: I've shot a bunch of moose, deer and bear- none yet have been further than 100yds. from where I pulled the trigger. The only long range shooting(besides competition) I do, is on Columbia Ground Squirrels & maybe the odd coyote/wolf.
: I'm much happier with a smokepole, or single-shot big bore in my hands, and considering I'd rather hunt than bushwack, even a .45 RB will take my moose, every year, at it's self-imposed max range of 50yds. The .69 RB allowed at least 150yds., but 90 to 95 yds. is the farthest it's been used at. When you can call one in to 20', why risk a 200 yd. shot over a swamp?
Daryl